Gorit Maqueda

IIRC, piscis = fish is written something like ichthys in greek, which would stand for Iesous Christos Theou Yos Soter or something like that. That is, Jesus Christ, God's Son and Saviour. Nothing to do with pisces (= several piscis, at least two).

But a lamb was also used as a symbol of Christ. Is a lamb a known constellation?

In other words, astrology is trash.

Johnnyboy

"IIRC, piscis = fish is written something like ichthys in greek, which would stand for Iesous Christos Theou Yos Soter or something like that. That is, Jesus Christ, God's Son and Saviour. Nothing to do with pisces (= several piscis, at least two)."

Thank you for your answer. As far as I know, early christian basilicas had pisces - yes right the star constellation- as a symbol. I have seen a photo here somewhere at IIDB, but I just can't find it right now.

Toto

The acronym ichthys = Jesous CHristos THeou Yios Soter was considered to have some sort of mystical significance. The acronym would not rule out an astrotheological meaning.

DAZ

(Isn't that supposed to be: ichthus = Iesous Christos Theou hUios Soter?)

Toto

I left of the aspirate 'h' and used 'Y' instead of 'U' for upsilon, to emphasize the translation. Otherwise it's the same.

rjf

Several of Jesus' disciples were fishermen. Several of his miracles involved fish (fishes and loaves, huge catches). He told his followers to be 'fishers of men.' It seems perfectly reasonable that they would adopt the fish as their symbol, and then this 'Jesous CHristos THeou Yios Soter' thing seems to flow naturally. Nothing special hhere.

judge

You are probably not going to convince someone who wants to believe in the accuracy of the events of Matthew.
If ones wants one can find an explanation, even if it is not necessarily right.
For example.

1. Jupiter rises as the morning star in the east.

2. The Magi, who are in Mespotamia, , note this.

3. Jupiter moves into conjunction with other planets.

4. Jupiter leaves this conjunction and , day by day, moves toward the west.

4. The Magi follow this west and come to Jerusalem.

5. Jupiter which has been moving west now stops or stands still in the sky, due to retrograde motion. From Jerusalem it stops right over Bethlehem.

Here is a video presentation created by Griffith Observatory and presented on the MSNBC Mysteries of the Universe series, showing what this kind of theory holds.

Johann_Kaspar

Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolo...ge_of_Aquarius

Johann_Kaspar

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It is not mandatory to take what you read at face value.

Mt 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

rjf

I don't follow. Were they not fishermen?