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dog-on · 11-28-2007, 02:34 AM

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What did he look like?

Erm the bible doesn't really describe physical looks of people as a rule, i'm struggling to find even one example so I fail to see the reason for your question?

BTW marrital staus is quite often mentioned I'e King David and King solomon whose wifes and concubines where listed.

Maybe it's just hard to describe someone you never met?

Lucretius · 11-28-2007, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dog-on

What did he look like?

Erm the bible doesn't really describe physical looks of people as a rule, i'm struggling to find even one example so I fail to see the reason for your question?

BTW marrital staus is quite often mentioned I'e King David and King solomon whose wifes and concubines where listed.

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Genesis 27:11 And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man:

A slightly silly example I know

Actually if you really read the New Testament there are a lot of things that are unclear about Jesus ,now I am not saying that you could say he was in fact married, but the theme of the NT is about his ministry alone ,once you get past the miraculous birth which is of course essential for the tale and very very few personal details emerge.

dog-on · 11-28-2007, 02:38 AM

btw...

25 The first to come out was red, and his whole body was like a hairy garment; so they named him Esau. [a]

Leah had weak eyes, but Rachel was lovely in form, and beautiful.

Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbim. Your nose is like the tower of Lebanon looking toward Damascus.

...and some nose that must have been!

coloradoatheist · 11-28-2007, 03:25 AM

I thought one of the predictors that Jesus supposedly filled also had the caveat that the person would be unnattractive and I'm surprised that Matthew did fit Jesus in some way to that. Also I've heard Jews who believe in a future messiah believe he will be red-headed.

It's interesting that neither side is mentioned. A 33 year old religious figure that wasn't married would not be taken seriously since rabbis would be married and probably considered gay. But there wasn't one casually reference to his wife doing anything or Paul trying to meet her.

Mike

Dogfish · 11-28-2007, 05:41 AM

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I have to say after the 60TH time of someone saying to me after watching the movie or reading The Da vinci code "Oh didn't you know jesus was married" I feel like doing them real physical harm eeek and i'm a nice non-violent person normally, but really....sometimes I wonder if I live among a world of bleeting sheep unable to formalate their own minds it's quite scary how suggestable humanity can be.

Welcome to the world of the atheist!
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dog-on · 11-28-2007, 06:29 AM

The Mormons, however, seemed quite pleased with The Da Vinici Code.

reniaa · 11-28-2007, 06:54 AM

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The Mormons, however, seemed quite pleased with The Da Vinici Code.

why?

dog-on · 11-28-2007, 06:59 AM

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The Mormons, however, seemed quite pleased with The Da Vinici Code.

why?

Celestial marriage???

I think it has to do with something out of Pearl of a Great price or D&C....

Lucretius · 11-28-2007, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by reniaa

I have to say after the 60TH time of someone saying to me after watching the movie or reading The Da vinci code "Oh didn't you know jesus was married" I feel like doing them real physical harm eeek and i'm a nice non-violent person normally, but really....sometimes I wonder if I live among a world of bleeting sheep unable to formalate their own minds it's quite scary how suggestable humanity can be.

Welcome to the world of the atheist!
:wave:

Well said Dogfish

wordy · 11-28-2007, 07:49 AM

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the main group of Essenes described by Josephus

But the bible doesn't mention them does it? The fact that they seems not to know of the Essenes could support it is a mythical text written long after the alleged events described. They didn't know that the Essenes existed cause the writers had not heard of Josephus even and made Jesus up based on old testament texts.

What is mentioned in the Bible is "men in white in the town" that would help them with a place to live and food? That could be local Essenes but why do they not mention they are Essenes? Was it supposed to be a secret. Jesus talked about secret teaching. Could that be the Essenes part?

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11-28-2007, 02:38 AM	#13
dog-on Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,397	btw... 25 The first to come out was red, and his whole body was like a hairy garment; so they named him Esau. [a] Leah had weak eyes, but Rachel was lovely in form, and beautiful. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbim. Your nose is like the tower of Lebanon looking toward Damascus. ...and some nose that must have been!

11-28-2007, 03:25 AM	#14
coloradoatheist Contributor Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: denver Posts: 11,319	I thought one of the predictors that Jesus supposedly filled also had the caveat that the person would be unnattractive and I'm surprised that Matthew did fit Jesus in some way to that. Also I've heard Jews who believe in a future messiah believe he will be red-headed. It's interesting that neither side is mentioned. A 33 year old religious figure that wasn't married would not be taken seriously since rabbis would be married and probably considered gay. But there wasn't one casually reference to his wife doing anything or Paul trying to meet her. Mike

11-28-2007, 06:29 AM	#16
dog-on Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,397	The Mormons, however, seemed quite pleased with The Da Vinici Code.

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