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Read Finkelstein. He will put the tale in context. Based on 7th century BC realities, it makes a lot more sense.
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But there are no Israelite names known from possible times of any Egyptian captivity, no mention of Yhwh. You would expect such things if there really were large numbers of Israelites in Egypt 430 years as claimed by the OT. Again, Israel allegedly came to Egypt with a little over 70 people and left with 600,000 men of fighting age 430 years later. If so, you would expect that there would be a very heavy Egyptian nfluence on early Israelite culture. Language, tradition, pottery, et al. The early Israelites were typical Canaanites. Only Egyption weights and measures are notable in this regard, which you'd expect since Egypt was a major trade partner for centuries. I do not see any notable Egyptianisms in the Levite religious codes of Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy et al. These Levites did not have a tradition of life after death, which was the basic foundation of Egyptian religion for example. Their legal codes smack more of Hammurabi and Babylonia. I see little evidence for Israel in Egypt where you would expect evidence. Early on, Egypt usually sents sons of local chiefs and sheiks to Egypt for education. Many of these men were proud of their status as we see in the Amarna letters, and quick to be hurt by percieved Egyptian slights. I strongly believe that when Egyptian power in the region collapsed after Rameses VI, these semi-Egyptianized men became part of a reorganization of tribal groups in the area that gave us proto-Israelite tribal coalitions. Hence distant rememberances of men connected somehow to Egypt. CC |
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I have heard that Israelite-style houses have been found at Pi-Raamses. Is there any truth to this claim?
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So do you have any quotes or references for Dever's change of mind and subsequent agreement with Finkelstein? |
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Having several of Dever's books, I can tell you Dever agrees that exodus is not historical. CC |
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That about sums it up.
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