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Old 01-30-2010, 10:57 AM   #11
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See my related Thread:

Mark's DiualCritical Marks. Presentation Of Names As Evidence Of Fiction

where I present my criteria for figurative use of names:

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Wallack's criteria for Figurative use of names:
1) Recognition through reading or sound. Demonstrated above.

2) Demonstrated style of the author. Demonstrated above.

3) Contextual fit. A character sympathetic to Jesus accepts his body just as John's disciples accepted his body.

4) Thematic fit. Action expected of Jesus' disciples, accepting his body (really "accepting" his death. Understand dear Reader?), replaced by stranger to Jesus.

5) Lack of known literal fit. The cruncher as the Brits say. No one has any idea where the hell "Arimathea" is.

6) Fictional story. The overall Empty Tomb story is likely fiction which means the default for any individual piece is fiction.
Specifically regarding "Mary" see:

Mary, Mary. Quite Contrary

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"Mark" has a literary style of replacing major characters with multiple characters with the same name. Presumably the most important natural character to Jesus would have been his father. Since per "Mark" Jesus' replacement father is God, no natural character would have had the same name = Jesus' natural father is not named.

The next most natural character to Jesus would have been his mother. The key which unlocks "Mark", The Parable of the Sower ("Juewee! Juewee! Here Juey Juey. Come here Juey Juey"), explains that the result of discipleship is multiplication:

Mark 4:8

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And others fell into the good ground, and yielded fruit, growing up and increasing; and brought forth, thirtyfold, and sixtyfold, and a hundredfold.
"Mark" is kind enough to make the major theme of family replacement explicit:

Mark 3

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3:31 And there come his mother and his brethren; and, standing without, they sent unto him, calling him.

3:32 And a multitude was sitting about him; and they say unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

3:33 And he answereth them, and saith, Who is my mother and my brethren?

3:34 And looking round on them that sat round about him, he saith, Behold, my mother and my brethren!

3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Putting the two together the good seed/disciple will fall/suffer but will give rise to multiple good seeds.

And here we see "Mark" replace the mother Mary who fell from discipleship with two Marys who are still following Jesus:

Mark 16

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16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the [mother] of James, and Salome, bought spices, that they might come and anoint him.

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Old 01-30-2010, 10:27 PM   #12
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Wow, I should read the bible once but it is nice to see that Mark is full of James because his Jesus did not go "up' either.
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