aa5874

What you posted is recorded and extremely easy to understand. You are postulating that it was unlikely that anything would have been written about Jesus.

Look it is right there.

Now, Please tell me HOW in the world you know it is CLAIMED that his ministry took place in rural areas of Galilee?

The answer is most OBVIOUS. People wrote about a character called Jesus whether or not he did actually live.

I have just demonstrated that whether Jesus was regarded as a Messiah or an Obscure Loner and Mad Man that it is erroneous to claim that people would not have written anything about Jesus if he lived.

See "Wars of the Jews" 6.5.3.

Josephus wrote about a Loner and a Mad Man called Jesus.

Tristan Scott

It is obviously to complex for you because that is not what I am postulating at all.

aa5874

These are your own words.

Don't you realize that people can understand what you write?

Now, you even deny your own postulate.

Tristan Scott

I wrote that nothing was written about the Jesus figure during his ministry, which means "while he was alive. Of course there was things written about him, but they were written later. You do not appear to understand that. You have hijacked this thread for two pages with this silliness. You bring up Josephus, but he was not contemporary with Jesus.

Juststeve

It would help if people limited their conclusions to the evidence. Question: Was anything written about Jesus during his lifetime? Answer: Nothing that has survived and been discovered at this time.

That is all the lack of surviving documents permits a reasonable person to say.

Steve

mountainman

According to the church "historian" Eusebius aka Big E., Jesus wrote a letter in reply to a letter from King Agbar, and Big E. cites the letter exchange in his gloriously transcendental "Christian Church History". Is this letter of Jesus to Agbar an unquestionable historical fact?

Juststeve

Mountainman:

No, I would not count the letter from Jesus to Agbar as an unquestionable historical fact. Do you think I should?

Steve

Tristan Scott

I agree Steve, but the point I was trying to make was that written word for communication in the 1st c. was not that common, so that even if nothing was written until after Jesus' life it wouldn't be that surprising.

Juststeve

Tristan:

I would agree with what you just wrote if you were to say that the written word for communication may not have been common in the 1st century. This may be because of less literacy in the 1st century, or because most written communications no longer exist, or because the literate did not communicate in writing very often.

Steve

aa5874

You are postulating that it was NOT likely that anyone would have written about Jesus because he was obscure so I have DEMONSTRATED that Josephus wrote about Jesus son of Ananus who was a LONER and declared to be a Mad Man in the 1st century.

Jesus the Son of Ananus, the Loner and declared Mad Man, was a contemporary of Josephus.

I have shown that your claim is erroneous.

It is simply erroneous that no-one would have written about Jesus if he did exist in the 1st century.

But I also mentioned PHILO.

Philo was a contemporary of the supposed Jesus and Carabbas the Mad Man.

Philo wrote about the Mad Man instead.

This is Philo in "Flaccus" Your claim is NOT supported by the writings of antiquity. If Jesus did exist and was known as the expected Jewish Messiah then it would be expected that CONTEMPORARY writers would have written about him.

The declared Mad Man Jesus was a CONTEMPORARY of Josephus.

The declared Mad Man Carabbas was a CONTEMPORARY of Philo.