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Gurdur · 09-06-2003, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by York
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or has israel massed forces on a common ground watchig capitalists interests spread it self thin?
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all capitalists should fear the oppressive canadian government.
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p.s i cant find it now but the ndp wants to open up a huge amount of mental hospitals here in canada. its my belief that they plan to incarcerate capitalists as soon as possible.

I re-read this 5 times. I still have absolutely no idea of how to respond to this.

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others that are like i was will surely be the incohearant destroyers of mankind.

This is quite possibly true.
My head threatens to explode already.

beyelzu · 09-06-2003, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by theyeti
York, you seem to have traded one extreme for the other.

The people at capitalism.org and similar sites are not merely promoting capitalism in the broad sense, which is the belief that open markets and free enterprise are the best economic system. What they're promoting is laissez faire capitalism, the belief that capitalism works best when completely unregulated, with minimal government involvement and little or no taxation. As a rule these people are hard-core ideologues, and are typically unfazed by strong counter-argument or empirical disproof of their claims. At the risk of offending some forum participants, IMO they promote a crank political philosophy that appeals only to idealists and simpletons. You should keep searching.

theyeti

as somebody who has libertarian leanings, I felt like I should respond. I for one agree with you. advocates of a pure laissez faire capitalism are pretty extreme idealogues. simliar to communitst imho. I find alot of what they say appealing myself, but I am not an idealist or a simpleton. I find the ideas appealing but unworkable. So I guess what I am saying is that the ideas are appealing, people who take them as truisms might just be simpletons or idealists.

RED DAVE · 09-07-2003, 01:28 AM

Back on July 13, york posted this (part of a larger post):

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i admire hitlers attempt to perfect the domain he was in. i deplore the methods he and or the SS used to achieve those goals.

i dont really mind that the jews/zionists have a homeland. they have indeed been persecuted over time by what were jutified reasons to there (many?) various antagonists. isreal for the jews, sure congratulations on your concentration country that you can run as you like. dont come back either please, most people dont like you.

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if the jews vote for liberals does this not prove that they are not the friends of capitalism? and does it matter that the ndp and liberals seem to argue but are both non indivisdualistic in nature. they are essentialy the same team and the jews are with them.

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p.s.s CanWest Global in my personal inquires with most everyone i meet in canada is either known, or believed to be owned by or in in large part by jews, by most of the population. i use that as evidence in my momment of asking faith in what i say.

Like I said, a junior nazi in training.

RED DAVE

Vorkosigan · 09-07-2003, 01:47 AM

Gurdur's head is about to explode.....a clear sign that this thread is destined for great things in ~E~.

Vorkosigan

Gurdur · 09-07-2003, 06:17 AM

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Originally posted by Vorkosigan
Gurdur's head is about to explode.....a clear sign that this thread is destined for great things in ~E~.

Vorkosigan

Don't use me as an excuse, Vork.

Mr. Neutron · 09-07-2003, 11:50 AM

*sigh*

I see my efforts to get the truth out just aren't working. This nonsense about a Jewish conspiracy is still being promulgated by gullible fools.

Meanwhile, the true threat of Hungarian World Domination goes unnoticed and unchecked.

Don't you people get it? Soylent Green is made from people! PEOPLE!

Bright Life · 09-07-2003, 12:27 PM

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i have been asked in the past to produce evidence of jews controling the media and government. i give you exhibit A.

Honestly, York! Do you believe that a whole race of people has formed a secret conspiracy? Hell, I can't even get a committee of twenty people to agree on one course of action.

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i am programed as a socialist.

Consider what you are saying here. "Programmed" gives us reason to believe that all of your information was just placed in your brain by outside parties. If you really want to have serious political discussions, you should include some text on critical thinking in your reading list.

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the rest of my ideology is from canadian tv.

Does this mean that the very people you have accused of attempted world domination are responsible for "programming" you to be against their efforts? This seems a bit counterproductive. Not the sort of behavior you would expect from a group so well organized, they are near to global rule.

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here is another tid bit of insanity to ponder. the jews and nazis working together to cause confusion. a smoke screen if you will.

You're right, that is a tid bit of insanity.

York. Please do some critical thinking. Your "arguments" are ignorant at best.

RED DAVE · 09-07-2003, 06:13 PM

People are ignoring York's history here at the Forum. check out his last appearance, early in the summer, and you will see, clearly, his "ingenuous" antisemitism.

There is no use arguing with him or admonishiing to clear thinking, etc. that's not his MO. His game in, as a junior nazi, to bait us and laugh up his sleeve.

RED DAVE

York · 09-07-2003, 09:50 PM

ingenious you say? well thank you RED DAVE i would never have expected a compliment from you. im glad to report back to you that it only took me but 60 pages to already see, that following people like hitler is catastrophe.

i will use the credit of my greatest accuser as proof of my advancement. i thank all here who have offered me data of their own free will.

i must also appologize for my over zealousness. i am but a young mind learning and must learn reserve.

York

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Originally posted by RED DAVE
People are ignoring York's history here at the Forum. check out his last appearance, early in the summer, and you will see, clearly, his "ingenuous" antisemitism.

There is no use arguing with him or admonishiing to clear thinking, etc. that's not his MO. His game in, as a junior nazi, to bait us and laugh up his sleeve.

RED DAVE

RED DAVE · 09-07-2003, 10:40 PM

If you have learned your lesson about nazis, go in peace, dude.

By the way, the word was "ingenuous," not "ingenious."

RED DAVE

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09-07-2003, 01:47 AM	#24
Vorkosigan Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Barrayar Posts: 11,866	Gurdur's head is about to explode.....a clear sign that this thread is destined for great things in ~E~. Vorkosigan

09-07-2003, 11:50 AM	#26
Mr. Neutron Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Innsmouth Posts: 1,296	sigh I see my efforts to get the truth out just aren't working. This nonsense about a Jewish conspiracy is still being promulgated by gullible fools. Meanwhile, the true threat of Hungarian World Domination goes unnoticed and unchecked. Don't you people get it? Soylent Green is made from people! PEOPLE!

09-07-2003, 06:13 PM	#28
RED DAVE Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 10,532	People are ignoring York's history here at the Forum. check out his last appearance, early in the summer, and you will see, clearly, his "ingenuous" antisemitism. There is no use arguing with him or admonishiing to clear thinking, etc. that's not his MO. His game in, as a junior nazi, to bait us and laugh up his sleeve. RED DAVE

09-07-2003, 10:40 PM	#30
RED DAVE Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 10,532	If you have learned your lesson about nazis, go in peace, dude. By the way, the word was "ingenuous," not "ingenious." RED DAVE

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