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Old 10-10-2007, 05:34 AM   #31
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Ksen: It's perfectly reasonable to see that the timespan from when God made his pronouncement in Gen 6:3 til the Flood was 120 years.
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Not really. Genesis 5:32 has Noah at 500 years old, and then the flood starts when he is 600 years old (Gen 7:6).
So God decided on a 120 years elapsed period ('grace period', if that is the meaning) when Noah was 480 y-o.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:00 AM   #32
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Clouseau: So God decided on a 120 years elapsed period ('grace period', if that is the meaning) when Noah was 480 y-o.
It's a break in the narrative chronology of a least 20 years backwards, assuming that there is a coherent chronolgy to the account.

I think Dean's explanation -- which is based on a summary of some indepth analysis of the texts -- makes a lot more sense.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:11 AM   #33
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I started a thread in BC&H about this question.

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...16#post4855116

I'm hoping we get some more scholarly input over there (not that there hasn't been any on this thread it's just that I don't believe many of the BC&H regulars visit GRD that often).
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Clouseau: So God decided on a 120 years elapsed period ('grace period', if that is the meaning) when Noah was 480 y-o.
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It's a break in the narrative chronology of a least 20 years backwards,
There can't be a backwards break- only forwards. There is concurrence only.

And all this is taking the 'narrative' literally anyway.
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The Jews liked number themes like many ancient cultures. The ancient numeral systems of the area were often base-60 and used base 6 and 10 quite a bit. 120 happens to be a nice fit for all the numeral systems and the top high end of human age. I would suggest that this is the most likely source for the 120, and explaining why the fairy tales of long lived people in the past didn't happen any more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_numerals
The Babylonians, who were famous for their astrological observations and calculations (aided by their invention of the abacus), used a sexagesimal (base-60) positional numeral system inherited from the Sumerian and also Akkadian civilizations. Neither of the predecessors was a positional system (having a convention for which ‘end’ of the numeral represented the units).

I'll let others debate the context of periods vs. human life span.
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I can't imagine a series of circumstances under which I would consider the number in question to be precise or binding. I doubt it means much of anything.
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