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Old 03-11-2008, 03:17 PM   #81
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Those who reject Jesus WILL go to hell....those in the Holocaust who accepted Jesus and who didnt? You dont know, I dont know....so how can you put these people in Hell? The truth hits hard especially when one is faced with a terrible crises.....why do you think that in the Bible many Jews are fortold to accept Christ during the Tribulation? A terrible crisis. You dont know who didnt or who did what....when faced with death.
......*sighs deeply, collects breath*

Say it with me, Sugarhitman: Jews do not secretly believe in your avatar-godman Jeebus. They do not even deny him because, shock!, they just don't believe in him. Your xenophobia is showing, Sugarhitman. Yes, those poor Holocaust Jews were probably praying as hard as they could, desperate to not collapse from despair....but they weren't praying to Jeebus.

--your xenophobic arrogance is shocking NB
Were you there? What im saying is that not you or I knows. I mean there have always been christian Jews....how do you know that there was no witnessing going on? You dont know it is arrogant to say otherwise.
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:19 PM   #82
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If any MAN ends up in Hell.....it was because of his choice.
So, God gives us a choice. Nice of him. So I freely choose one way, since God allows me to. And he loves me and what-not. Everything sounds good, but then...

Whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack...... for all eternity.

Jesus H. Christ. I've been doing this for a long time, and every time I go through this same shit with someone it gets even more ridiculous.

Imagine if you treated your kid like this.

"Hey son, you want to stay home and watch TV, or go fishing with me? It's your choice."

"I think I'll stay home and watch TV, Dad."

"OK, it's your choice. Whack whack whack whack whack whack....."
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......*sighs deeply, collects breath*

Say it with me, Sugarhitman: Jews do not secretly believe in your avatar-godman Jeebus. They do not even deny him because, shock!, they just don't believe in him. Your xenophobia is showing, Sugarhitman. Yes, those poor Holocaust Jews were probably praying as hard as they could, desperate to not collapse from despair....but they weren't praying to Jeebus.

--your xenophobic arrogance is shocking NB
Were you there? What im saying is that not you or I knows. I mean there have always been christian Jews....how do you know that there was no witnessing going on? You dont know it is arrogant to say otherwise.

So, jesus is the most precious little lamb that ever existed and is the prince of peace correct?

So how come the prince of peace says "Whoever doesn't believe in me will get burned alive forever in the worst torture chamber imaginable! HA HA HA HA!!!!!"
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If any MAN ends up in Hell.....it was because of his choice. And it does not matter if his life on earth was good or bad whether he suffered or not.....whatever a man suffers on earth does not make him right or wrong....you are trying to determine a person's character by how they suffered...which leads to false visualization.

Well, that settles it then. You worship a God that makes Hitler look like a newborn lamb.

hitler threw jews in the oven because they were jewish for a finite amount of time and we call him evil and sadistic.

God throws jews in the oven forever because they were jewish and you call him loving and not possibly evil.

How do you live with yourself?
No wonder you didnt last as a christian...confusion. Hitler killed Jews because they were Jewish (and because he was an occult Pagan, Pagans harbor great hostility against Jews) God punishes because of Sin....big difference.
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Well, that settles it then. You worship a God that makes Hitler look like a newborn lamb.

hitler threw jews in the oven because they were jewish for a finite amount of time and we call him evil and sadistic.

God throws jews in the oven forever because they were jewish and you call him loving and not possibly evil.

How do you live with yourself?
No wonder you didnt last as a christian...confusion. Hitler killed Jews because they were Jewish (and because he was an occult Pagan, Pagans harbor great hostility against Jews) God punishes because of Sin....big difference.

Huh? You claimed atheists are going to Hell for disbelieving in jesus.

how do the Jews get off the hook for disbelieving?

Basically, God throws Jews in hell for being Jewish.

And didn't you say previously, "It doesn't matter how many good works we do in life, you will go to Hell for disbelieving in jesus."

Now you claim he punishes sin in Hell.
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Hitler killed Jews because they were Jewish (and because he was an occult Pagan, Pagans harbor great hostility against Jews)
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Were you there? What im saying is that not you or I knows. I mean there have always been christian Jews....how do you know that there was no witnessing going on? You dont know it is arrogant to say otherwise.

So, jesus is the most precious little lamb that ever existed and is the prince of peace correct?

So how come the prince of peace says "Whoever doesn't believe in me will get burned alive forever in the worst torture chamber imaginable! HA HA HA HA!!!!!"
Half life are you "trolling?" Jesus is the Word made flesh. In other words if you hate God's Words you hate Him. If you dont have any regard for His Salvation.....you have chosen.
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So, jesus is the most precious little lamb that ever existed and is the prince of peace correct?

So how come the prince of peace says "Whoever doesn't believe in me will get burned alive forever in the worst torture chamber imaginable! HA HA HA HA!!!!!"
Half life are you "trolling?" Jesus is the Word made flesh. In other words if you hate God's Words you hate Him. If you dont have any regard for His Salvation.....you have chosen.

Then why don't we go around incinerating Buddhists and Hindus?

God's just gonna do it forever, right?

or do we not do it because we respect their beliefs?

Why can't God respect their beliefs?
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No wonder you didnt last as a christian...confusion. Hitler killed Jews because they were Jewish (and because he was an occult Pagan, Pagans harbor great hostility against Jews) God punishes because of Sin....big difference.

Huh? You claimed atheists are going to Hell for disbelieving in jesus.

how do the Jews get off the hook for disbelieving?

Basically, God throws Jews in hell for being Jewish.

And didn't you say previously, "It doesn't matter how many good works we do in life, you will go to Hell for disbelieving in jesus."

Now you claim he punishes sin in Hell.
Good works does not atone for sins....only the Blood of Jesus....because sin result in death...death is the reward for sin...thank God for Jesus.
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No wonder you didnt last as a christian...confusion. Hitler killed Jews because they were Jewish (and because he was an occult Pagan, Pagans harbor great hostility against Jews)
Europe had been quite Christianized for many centuries. Anti-semitisim was rooted deep in the German people, and it had its roots in Christianity, not Paganism. Hitler used that anti-semitism in manipulating the German people, resulting in the tragedy.

Don't try to pawn off the Holocaust on Paganism. It's more complex than what I've stated above, but Christianity was largely the source from which anti-semitism sprung.

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God punishes because of Sin....big difference.
The big "Sin" that is the main cause of said punishment apparently being believing the wrong thing about God. I'm pretty sure that you yourself have indicated that on this thread. Along with "hating Jesus" or something along those lines.

Now, Judaism...what does Judaism believe about God, and what does Judaism say about Jesus?
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