premjan

http://luxlapis.tripod.com/arahats.htm

the sixteen arahats (sarasvativadin or tibetan school).

Vajradhara

Namaste premjan,

yes, it is totally refuted in every school.

the creator deity was called Ishvara in the historical Buddhas time and this concept is specifically refuted in the First Turning of the Wheel teachings.

premjan

I wonder if that helped or hindered anything. the judaic creator God for example, was pretty logical (even mathematical) as a construct, with the ten mosaic commandments. how are we to say it is better to believe in no creator? by what standard are we to judge the answer? the buddhist philosophy was a little detached from application, just a disembodied system of thought about how the human brain processes logical categories. Logically this little piece of thought belongs alongside modern AI research but coming as it did at a time when there were no computers, I don't see how it helped anything much. Of course, Buddhists were more compassionate people, apparently, although in India, it is said that there was a lot of sexual corruption of monasteries towards the end of the Buddhist age, due to the deemphasis of normal social life. It may not have been so in other parts of Asia.

River

When did Buddhism abandon the name " ARAHA" for G-d ?

It appears that the name of G-d is relatively conserved throughout

all the major religions.

i.e

Zoroastrianism : AHURA

Judaism: Ha'ALOAH

Christianity (aramaic): ALLAHA

Islam: ALLAH

another synonym of G-d in the Qur'an : RAHMAN

Hinduism: B-RAHMAN

premjan

More than Brahman, perhaps the name 'Varaha' (cosmic boar) corresponds to Rahman. Of course being a pig it would be anti-Islamic in a literal sense.

aupmanyav

There have been millions of people through the history who were awakened, at least in India. Some people do not have the wherewithalls to go beyond what they see or what they are told, others can understand better. There is no harm in worshipping idols. Nearly all people have their own idols; people, books, places, structures, stories, ideologies; do not limit idols to only those made of stone. True iconoclasts go beyond all that. Abrahamic Gods logical! Nothing more illogical than that.

Arhat in Ari-hanta in Sanskrit, the slayer of enemies (the enemy being ignorance). 'Brahman' is not 'rahman' (funny linguistics), human attributes cannot be applied to it since it is not a man or woman. It is matter/energy/wave/force. First understand that.

lenrek

LOL...

This thread reminds me of my 1st OP:

Is God/Allah mentioned in the Buddhist suttas?