Loren Pechtel

Pot normally doesn't cause accidents. While it impairs your judgement, people using it know they are impaired and normally don't do dangerous things. The reason alcohol causes so many accidents is along with impairing you it impairs your ability to realize you are impaired.

I don't think inhaling *ANY* kind of smoke is the brightest thing in the world but it's never been linked to any form of harm.

AlphaandOmega

MY mistake I saw a documentary about Vancover drug problems last year but I didn't catch the age of the clinics. I assumed they were in exsistance for years.

Loren Pechtel

Your teacher was repeating the crap the government spews out about drugs. I don't know about the Truth ads, I haven't seen them. It sounds like more of the same crap, though.

There's no reasonable case against recreational drugs while the #1 addicter and killer remains legal: Tobacco.

I've never seen a risk profile on heroin. It's quite similar to morphine, though. Morphine has a very good safety profile--used correctly it's far safer than the stuff you buy in the drug store. If it wasn't addictive and couldn't get you high it would have no problem getting OTC status.

Loren Pechtel

Look at "drug problem" reports, especially those from the government, with considerable skepticism.

Graeme

Fair enough.

It should definitely be noted that heroin deaths have gone down in the short time that the clinics have been operating.

AlphaandOmega

Since heroin and morphine are addictive people tend to overdose on them if they are not under medical supervision so I assume that is why the deaths have gone down from it in canada because now people are being supervised so they won't take an OD amount and die.

AtheistSalmon

Damn, I smell a charlatan, maybe a parapsychologist? Leaping out of a building, get real. Nobody has ever died as a result of smoking pot, case closed.

Some great links on logic:

http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/index.htm

http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html

http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html

AtheistSalmon

So these 28 grams of high-grade, illegal (*in Alaska), marijuana are going to make me jump off buildings or drive the wrong way. Well, no building is too high here in this little town and we don't have a freeway so let's up the ante with walking on a half-frozen lake, fighting with a brown bear, swimming in the Kenai River (in March), or firing a high caliber hunting rifle in the middle of town.

Update, one gram later I am still typing, and feel to lazy and stoned to actually smoke anymore. Damn, I am still alive that bear damn near killed me, the swim in the river made my tentacles fall off, in the middle of the lake the ice started to crack, and nobody heard the 7mm magnum rounds being discharged in the vicinity of the Alaska State Patrol station. It's my entire fault; I was stoned man!

* Pre 1984 one could smoke weed legally, and grow up to ten plants. The courthouse in Juneau even had a marijuana plant growing in the window. Pressure from the Feds in DC changed all this though, and today one goes to prison for three years for those ten plants, yet only gets fined for possession (typically 100.00), under 100 grams.

"How barbaric a society which prosecutes those in the pursuit of euphoria!" - Carl Sagan

Solsticin

Also, keep in mind that the government is allowed (and encouraged) to lie about drugs. They think that the use is bad enough to warrant it. Shameful, but I'm not surprized I suppose. The "Truth" ads are great.

http://www.mpp.org/releases/nr031104gao.html

You can look up the sources pretty easy, I just found the first of many sites with a story about that. MPP probably isn't the best source

Oh, and I'm not a drug user, for the record. I did my share in the past though (and your share).

Comquirk

Dude, I've driven high before, and 60KPH feels like warp speed. I assure you, no high person would drive that fast, nor could they even if they wanted to.

As for stupid things done on pot, generaly the energy isn't even there. The stupidest things my buds (*rim shot*) and I have done on pot it jumping of high things into piles of snow. Oh, and rolling my buddy down a hill in a shopping cart. But he did that drunk high or sober.