Chad Mundt

This is a tangent from another thread.

I have been told so many times that there are Christians in work, rather than in word. So does this mean that "Christian" is synonymous with "Good Person"?

Here's another way of putting it:

Is someone who tries to respect other people, doesn't rape babies, is a good father, loves his neighbor, etc. but openly doesn't believe that Jesus even existed, let alone saved all of mankind from "sin" a good person or not?

Shadowy Man

It would depend on your definition of "good". According to mine, yes. But I can't speak for others on this matter.

achristianbeliever

Loves his neighbor and is a good father. You know your absolutely right if a person never once sins they don't need Jesus. I have no problem with that.

Here is a question though can you actually accomplish it.


Let's try this love your neighbor thing: Ok go ahead and think about people and try not to think anything bad about them;
-Think about everyone who has sent you email (this includes spam)
-Think about everyone who has given you a bill after fixing your car
-Think about every American President
-Think about every celebrity

Yep I thought I was a good person too.

purple_kathryn

Being angry at annoying things does not make you a bad person.

Jedi Mind Trick

-Think about sending people to hell (this includes good people)
-Think about drowning every living thing in a flood (this includes babies)
-Think about killing off entire tribes of people (this includes babies)
-Think about sending a lying spirit to deceive the unwary
-Think about deliberately hardening people’s hearts
-Think about...................

Yep I thought Yahweh was a good person too.

FatherMithras

You´re definition ofa good person is ridiculous. You´re saying someone deserves eternal damnation for thinking ´´Margaret talks too much sometimes and that annoys me.´´?

You´re god is a douche than. He´s worse than a father who kills his son for not cleaning his room.

Chad Mundt

I think that you just like to categorize people as "good" or "bad". These categories are human constructs. It is our brain trying to put everything into a neat little nook and cranny when the world doesn't really require that.

Why do we consider murder bad? Is it because some guy came down from a mountain with some rules? No. Murder was frowned upon before that. So, what is the basis of our morality? Murder goes against our goals of trying to survive. If everyone were allowed to go around killing everyone else, eventually you and I would get killed too. And we don't want that. So, we make up "rules" that we must follow, even if each situation is unique.

You can find a reason for every more. Some are more obvious and more justified by our everyone's desires/needs/etc, but there is a reason.

Hilarious. I love it when people use reason.

Chad Mundt

There is more to reason than twisting my words.

Chad Mundt

I apologize to everyone here. I am speaking very condescendingly. It just infuriates me when I am accused of being evil unjustly.

This is why Christianity is dying. You make everyone feel bad, and putting people down accomplishes nothing except allowing you to feel better about your imperfections because everyone else is "a sinner".

achristianbeliever

I notice how everyone seemed to move away from my point.

Arcobop said the words: What if someone "loves his neighbor"....and so I called him up on this and said ok has anybody actually accomplished this....and I showed how its not really possible and now people seem to change that into something else. Blackwater moved it to whether or not God is bad for sending people to Hell and other stuff, others moved it to whether or not someone is bad for being annoyed at someone. None of these has anything to do with my point. The opening of this thread was all about if a person loves their neighbor and I ask whether or not this has ever actually been accomplished and I don't think anybody responded to that.