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Old 05-07-2004, 03:45 PM   #41
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I suggest that WinAce reorganize his ID pages in this way:

The main page should have a "best of" list of organisms and links to some other list pages. These other pages can then contain many other examples, perhaps grouped into categories like predators and parasites.
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Old 05-07-2004, 06:48 PM   #42
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The underlying running gag is that all these organisms are staggeringly complex, hence designed--but they're all creatures that give Hollywood horror movies a good run for their money. Stuff like eye-parasitizing worms and zombie-mind-control barnacles. Things that, if truly designed, should make us very scared of ever encountering the designer.
That was beautiful. Each one with its ability, instinct, and will to survive.

The cirlce of life is truly remarkable, I would love to meet the designer.

BTW...I think you should add humans to that list.
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I remember a photo from a high school biology text that showed a type of insect-eating fungus. It would start growing on the exoskeleton of a large insect, like a wasp, and eventually grow to cover the insect's entire body and eat it alive. It was an amazing photo and it might have some potential for a site like this. Unfortunately, I can't remember the name of the species.
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Having read that list and this thread, I wonder why humans ever felt the need to write horror fiction. Will it sound strange if I refuse to go swimming because a catfish might swim up my urethra?

I fear for our scrotums.
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The candaru is actually a parasite of the gills of other fish, notably the large species of Amazonian catfish. It finds it's host by following the trails of urea from it's gills. Once in there it becomes a bloodsucker, feeding directy from the gills.

And that is pretty much how it finds us when we pee in the pool.

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The candaru is actually a parasite of the gills of other fish, notably the large species of Amazonian catfish. It finds it's host by following the trails of urea from it's gills. Once in there it becomes a bloodsucker, feeding directy from the gills.

And that is pretty much how it finds us when we pee in the pool.
*twitch*

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well, now that my case of the twitching chills has abated, that site is just awesome :notworthy
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Old 05-11-2004, 10:56 PM   #47
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Haha! Check out how some clueless atheists fell for my parody and started ad-homming me at SciForums. Most entertaining, that was! I decided to play along for a while, but unfortunately got exposed before it really took off. I think the highlight was a biologist posting his personally-authored peer reviewed journal article on evolution at me to show how creationism was stupid.
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LOL winace owned them :P

actually I tried this tack on Sarfati a few months back before I realised that TWeb was tripe. His excuse was that "well God probably put these things there in preparation for the fall and arrival of sin" ... of course not detracting one little bit from the idea that the IDists God is a sadistic mofo.
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Funny that the people in sciforums didn't realized immediately that was a joke... but really there are some stuff that is hard to distinguish, such as a site I saw once, actually I still do not know if is a parody or not. There was a atheist that was a ranting goat, saying that he likes to just drink coffee, and he said that "Jesus doens't love me anyway", and stuff like that. There also advices for keeping your children away from atheists. What led me to think that was a joke is that there's someone in some sort of creationist department with "Paley" surname, what I think that is much coincidence... anyway, I still don't know.

But back to the topic, but at the same time, looking a bit more widely at what the design and what does it mean. I see that living things are not simply designed machines, but also they're art, that can be, among other things, grotesque. Made by a designer or designers, living things follow artistic tendences, such as art schools or movements, like modernism or impressionism, but vertebrateism, archaeaism, coleopteraism, and etc. That explains the alleged pattern of evolution by descent with modification. The synapomorphies are not due to common descent, but rather by restrictions imposed in certain styles. A proterostome mammal would be a very amateurish error. Here's something that may have been a inspiration to Picasso, the flatfish Solea vulgaris. Does not this sort of deformation, the break of the well stabilished imposed pattern of billateral simetry implies a tremendous creative innovation, clearly made by a vanguard artist? In the other hand, common flatfishes, such as rays, clearly shows a conformism with the current art standards. That doesn't necessarily mean that there are more than one Artistic Designer, AD movement doesn't make any assertion about the nature of the AD, but only infers the existence of Artistic Design by the evidence of art in nature.
Nature is plenty of examples of art in its concepts. Some abyssal fishes, are a great example of minimalism, with their so called "parastic males" (genus Ceratias, among others), that would be better called "minimal males". In some species, the male, much smaller than the female, fuses completely in her body being literally and functionally a part of it, having not even eyes, or teeth, the male is almost reduced to mere testis. It maybe also interpreted as a influence of the asexualism; a influence that seems to be present also in some parthenogenic cases, like the rock lizard Lacerta unisexualis.
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