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Equinox · 11-20-2009, 06:52 AM

Like the hydra, the shroud people have again reasserted that the shroud of Turis is Jesus' first century burial cloth.

This time, a vatican person says there is writing on it that says "Jesus".
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091120/...hroud_of_turin

Does anyone know of any tests done to confirm this, or of images of the supposed "writing". Plus, even given the huge concession that this is writing, isn't it unsurprising that a medieval hoaxter might scrawl "Jesus" on his hoax?

Let's see how long this lasts....

Equinox

Huon · 11-20-2009, 07:24 AM

This good story enlightens my afternoon.
Remember that the so-called Shroud of Turin was made at Lirey in Champagne (France).

Toto · 11-20-2009, 09:14 AM

The reporter did a good job of interviewing skeptics.

Quote:

"People work on grainy photos and think they see things," said Antonio Lombatti, a church historian who has written books about the shroud. "It's all the result of imagination and computer software."

...

Decades ago entire studies were published on coins that were purportedly seen on Jesus' closed eyes, but when high-definition images were taken during a 2002 restoration the artifacts were nowhere to be seen and the theory was dropped, Garlaschelli said

The word is paradolia also spelled

Pareidolia, a category of

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semiopen · 11-20-2009, 09:37 AM

Still is a cool way to get a monogrammed burial shroud.

The coins were probably sun glasses.

Potoooooooo · 11-20-2009, 12:14 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_italy_shroud_of_turin
ROME – A Vatican researcher claims a nearly invisible text on the Shroud of Turin proves the authenticity of the artifact revered as Jesus' burial cloth.

The claim made in a new book by historian Barbara Frale drew immediate skepticism from some scientists, who maintain the shroud is a medieval forgery.

rickP · 11-20-2009, 12:43 PM

Wait, but I saw a picture of a grove of trees that spell out Allah in arabic and there was that meat somewhere that spelled out Allah in the gristle and...and...

What would be funny is if they found text that said "Made in Nazareth".

Tom Sawyer · 11-20-2009, 12:44 PM

Hey, invisible text proves the authenticity of something that belonged to a guy who never existed.

Those zany Vatican researchers. What'll they think of next?

Toto · 11-20-2009, 12:48 PM

Same topic in BCH:

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=278863

Roger Pearse · 11-20-2009, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox

Like the hydra, the shroud people have again reasserted that the shroud of Turis is Jesus' first century burial cloth.

This time, a vatican person says ...

Not sure if this person has any association with the Vatican other than access to the facilities. Looks like someone with a book to sell.

Equinox · 11-20-2009, 12:55 PM

RP wrote:

Quote:

Looks like someone with a book to sell.

Yep, I noticed that too. And with the story on the national news, this person is now set to retire. They get rewarded hansomely for this claptrap.

11-20-2009, 06:52 AM	#1
Equinox Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 897	The Hydra Shroud of Turin Like the hydra, the shroud people have again reasserted that the shroud of Turis is Jesus' first century burial cloth. This time, a vatican person says there is writing on it that says "Jesus". http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091120/...hroud_of_turin Does anyone know of any tests done to confirm this, or of images of the supposed "writing". Plus, even given the huge concession that this is writing, isn't it unsurprising that a medieval hoaxter might scrawl "Jesus" on his hoax? Let's see how long this lasts.... Equinox

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Potoooooooo Contributor Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 13,541	Researcher says text proves Shroud of Turin real http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_italy_shroud_of_turin ROME – A Vatican researcher claims a nearly invisible text on the Shroud of Turin proves the authenticity of the artifact revered as Jesus' burial cloth. The claim made in a new book by historian Barbara Frale drew immediate skepticism from some scientists, who maintain the shroud is a medieval forgery.

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11-20-2009, 07:24 AM	#2
Huon Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bordeaux France Posts: 2,796	This good story enlightens my afternoon. Remember that the so-called Shroud of Turin was made at Lirey in Champagne (France).

11-20-2009, 09:37 AM	#4
semiopen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hillsborough, NJ Posts: 3,551	Still is a cool way to get a monogrammed burial shroud. The coins were probably sun glasses.

11-20-2009, 12:43 PM	#6
rickP Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 1,079	Wait, but I saw a picture of a grove of trees that spell out Allah in arabic and there was that meat somewhere that spelled out Allah in the gristle and...and... What would be funny is if they found text that said "Made in Nazareth".

11-20-2009, 12:44 PM	#7
Tom Sawyer Talk Freethought Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, eh Posts: 42,293	Hey, invisible text proves the authenticity of something that belonged to a guy who never existed. Those zany Vatican researchers. What'll they think of next?

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Same topic in BCH: http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=278863

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