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Old 10-22-2003, 03:01 PM   #121
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Why didn't you answer my question?

How does one interpret "waters...flowing over mountains" to mean that mountains are raising?
Where does it say that?
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C'mon, Magus, inquiring minds want to know. When, in your opinion, did the Flood occur?
What difference does it make?
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Where does it say that?
Right where you directed us: Psalms 104:8-9.

And I notice you haven't denied believing the moon is responsible for the seasons, as the Bible says in Psalms 104:19.
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Well, if you say it occured at a time when, say, Egypt was right in the middle of building the pyramids, then God must have added yet ANOTHER miracle to the list and made the Egyptians not notice that the rest of the world was flooded out.

The timeline is pretty damned important here.
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:07 PM   #125
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I know what you're saying...I understand it. But willful ignorance is not something I respect.
Willfully ignorant? You sound just like Biff.

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Magus faces the "horde" not because he's brave, but because he really, truly, thinks we're all wrong, and he's right. It's more like, "ignorance induced courage".
And you really, truly think all theists are wrong. You have no room to talk.
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What difference does it make?
In the other thread (from June), you said:

Hence why the OT revolves around ancient Egypt. Any eastern civilizations that are older than Egypt could have come before the flood - which is why there is no record of them existing after it.

To support this assertion, you need to establish a date for the flood. And that pretty much goes for many other claims you make about the flood.

So avoid the question all you want, but if you do you should also avoid making claims that depend on the date of the alleged Deluge.
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And you really, truly think all theists are wrong. You have no room to talk.
On the subject in question (the Flood), many theists are right - they understand it's a myth, and that there's no historical, geological, or other evidence that verifies it as history.
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Right where you directed us: Psalms 104:8-9.

And I notice you haven't denied believing the moon is responsible for the seasons, as the Bible says in Psalms 104:19.
No where in Psalms 104:8-9 does it say the waters flowed over the mountains. Look at multiple translations of verse 8. It says the mountains rose and the valleys sank. God changed the topography of the Earth to accomodate the water.

And what about the seasons? The hebrew word Mow'ed means appointed time. It doesn't mean summer, winter, fall, or spring. The moon is used to determine the appointed times during the months of the year.
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Well, if you say it occured at a time when, say, Egypt was right in the middle of building the pyramids, then God must have added yet ANOTHER miracle to the list and made the Egyptians not notice that the rest of the world was flooded out.

The timeline is pretty damned important here.
Or you have the dates of Egyptian rule wrong. There isn't much evidence for the exact times when ancient Egypt existed.
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No where in Psalms 104:8-9 does it say the waters flowed over the mountains. Look at multiple translations of verse 8. It says the mountains rose and the valleys sank. God changed the topography of the Earth to accomodate the water.
5 He set the earth on its foundations;
it can never be moved.
6 You covered it with the deep as with a garment;
the waters stood above the mountains.
7 But at your rebuke the waters fled,
at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;
8 they flowed over the mountains,
they went down into the valleys,
to the place you assigned for them.
9 You set a boundary they cannot cross;
never again will they cover the earth.

Where does it say the "mountains rose and the valleys sank"???

In any case, this passage doesn't seem to be talking about Noah's Flood, but perhaps about the creation myth in Genesis.
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