orac

FREE markets that are regulated are not entirely FREE, are they? Sheesh, next you'll be telling us that you TRUST THE GOVERNMENT to determine what taxes people should pay and what an equitable market share actually is.

Note: In a free market, an "equitable" market share is whatever market share a company can obtain, and this is possible without a government to say "yup, you've obtained the market share that you've obtained."

meritocrat

Income tax DEPRIVES people of HARD EARNED MONEY!! It's GOVERNMENTAL FORCE!!!!!

The indirect taxes I propose would come from road tolls and taxes on basic goods and services!!!!

orac

Which, of course won't come from hard earned money (it'll be restricted to easy earned money, I guess, or maybe people can harvest leaves off trees instead of handing over money to the government), and won't involve force because lots of private companies will set up independant road networks ensuring that noone is forced to use the government controlled roads. That's a workable plan you have there. I'm just surprised no companies have taken advantage of this obvious and effective revenue source yet.

MollyMac

:notworthy

Thanks for finding a way to say what I often find myself thinking when I read one of those posts.

meritocrat

I don't work for the government! It's none of their business who I work for!!!

I could have property on a desert island owned by NO state!!!!

I PAY money in the form of tax because government is FORCE!!! ALL forms of force SHOULD be ERADICATED from human interaction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

variant 13

Doesn't matter if you work for the government or not, your job exists because of the government.

Do it then, stop fucking moaning about it and piss off.

Your money is worth what it is because of the government, so they get to have some of it.

No they shouldn't!!!!!!!!!!!! Coz you'd not be able to interact with other people!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are using forceful language, you utter and complete hypocrite.

meritocrat

Well if my money is MY property!! I earn it; Tony Blair or Gordon Brown do NOT!!!

Why can't the state take other parts of my property then??

As for the state owning the money supply, well if they didn't they'd probably still have taxation, even though they didn't OWN the money!!

variant 13

Again you show your ignorance, the money belongs to the government not to you. FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ignorance again, they can -just one example- no road tax and they take your car.

meritocrat

The government may ISSUE money, but they can't dictate how I SPEND it!!! So it's my property even though the state creates money!!!

variant 13

I'll type slowly so you can understand:

The money belongs to the government, it's not your property. FACT.

You can say whatever you want about you earning it, but that won't change the FACT that the money is owned by the government.