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ecco · 03-08-2013, 09:18 AM

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I have my fingers crossed that the upcoming series on the Vikings will be accurate.

Episode one was quite good. I now have it on "Record Series".

Invisible 1 · 03-10-2013, 01:51 AM

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I have my fingers crossed that the upcoming series on the Vikings will be accurate.

Episode one was quite good. I now have it on "Record Series".

Really? huh. My wife saw the first episode and said it was a fictional dramatization, so I wrote if off.

ecco · 03-10-2013, 06:41 AM

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it was a fictional dramatization,

It is. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply it was historically accurate.

Sheshbazzar · 03-10-2013, 07:32 AM

A fictional dramatization of fictional people set in a fictional history.

PhilosopherJay · 03-10-2013, 10:06 AM

Hi credoconsolans

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14.8 million viewed the bible series.
13.5 million watched the Walking Dead show.

Americans do like their zombie shows.

NCIS got 20 million viewers
NCIS Los Angeles got 17 million viewers
God, The Great and Powerful the Bible 13.1 million (one showing)

Americans sure do love their police procedurals, a subgenre of detective fiction.

Warmly,

Jay Raskin

Invisible 1 · 03-11-2013, 01:21 AM

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it was a fictional dramatization,

It is. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply it was historically accurate.

No problem, I was just hoping for History is all.

I shed a tear for the good old days of the History channel, Discovery Channel and TLC, which used to be about "learning".

Sheshbazzar · 03-11-2013, 06:20 AM

Problem is the History Channel simply cannot give us the actual history of that period because the Judeo-Christian religions put the 1000 BCE-400CE time period through their religious wringer and turned out thousands of mythological religious tall tales and flat out lies, which the passage of so much time makes virtually impossible to separate historical fact from these fabricated religious fictions.
The problem for real history is, and it is an ongoing one, that whenever the subject of this time period is aired, it is always the fictional contrived Judeo-Christian religious horse shit that takes center stage and is presented as being history, to a large degree being because that is what society brought up in that quagmire still demands to be recited.
The religious fruits would go absolutely freaking nuts if their favorite religious fairy tale did not receive center stage.

semiopen · 03-11-2013, 07:19 AM

If they wanted to make it more accurate, start episode 1 in Babylon around 500 BCE and have a bunch of guys talking about writing various scrolls.

That might cut some episodes.

I don't know how they treat the New Testament, but if done properly the Old Testament could be quite amusing.

JoeWallack · 03-11-2013, 11:53 AM

It ain't no Mystries,
if it's politics, religion or Histries.
The thing you gotta know iz,
Everything is show biz.

JW:
It's okay for the History Channel if every thought starts in question form "Could/might/is it" and ends with the conclusion of noted _____ "thought/thinks/will think so". When the History Channel says that noted Bibleologist _____ concluded XT, that is a historical statement (not "XT" but that so and so concluded XT).

As Yeshu Barra once said, "Sounds like Deja Jew all over again."

Joseph

Toto · 03-11-2013, 07:05 PM

Conservatives can’t get enough of “The Bible”: The History Channel's new series is being championed by the likes of Glenn Beck and Joel Osteen. Of course it is

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Glenn Beck pushed the film as well with a segment featuring one of the series’ consultants, Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, who said that “this series has the potential of emerging as the most-watched series in cable history… we’re living in a time full of moral relativism, decadence, and spiritual apathy.”

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Tom Mullins of the Christian Fellowship adds, “We’ve had our very core of our identity robbed from us in our secular, humanistic society.” Because God has been “taken out of the picture,” people had lost hope, but this film, he believes, “will help people get back to their source of hope.” The Dove Foundation also raves about the film, though it also provided the following warnings for parents of children who might watch:

Drugs: Drinking of wine.
Nudity: Shirtless men and some seen in loincloths

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Thus far, the show appears to take too many liberties with the text to satisfy the most biblically-minded of viewers; to be too dark and violent for ordinary evangelicals drawn by Downey’s Touched by an Angel pedigree; to be too lacking in coherent narrative and stilted in script to appeal to those who just want good entertainment; and to be too sketchy in history and profundity to match the hopes of church leaders who want the miniseries to become the next cultural sensation.

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03-10-2013, 07:32 AM	#34
Sheshbazzar Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: On the path of knowledge Posts: 8,889	A fictional dramatization of fictional people set in a fictional history.

03-11-2013, 06:20 AM	#37
Sheshbazzar Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: On the path of knowledge Posts: 8,889	Problem is the History Channel simply cannot give us the actual history of that period because the Judeo-Christian religions put the 1000 BCE-400CE time period through their religious wringer and turned out thousands of mythological religious tall tales and flat out lies, which the passage of so much time makes virtually impossible to separate historical fact from these fabricated religious fictions. The problem for real history is, and it is an ongoing one, that whenever the subject of this time period is aired, it is always the fictional contrived Judeo-Christian religious horse shit that takes center stage and is presented as being history, to a large degree being because that is what society brought up in that quagmire still demands to be recited. The religious fruits would go absolutely freaking nuts if their favorite religious fairy tale did not receive center stage.

03-11-2013, 07:19 AM	#38
semiopen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hillsborough, NJ Posts: 3,551	If they wanted to make it more accurate, start episode 1 in Babylon around 500 BCE and have a bunch of guys talking about writing various scrolls. That might cut some episodes. I don't know how they treat the New Testament, but if done properly the Old Testament could be quite amusing.

03-11-2013, 11:53 AM	#39
JoeWallack Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nazareth Posts: 2,357	It ain't no Mystries, if it's politics, religion or Histries. The thing you gotta know iz, Everything is show biz. JW: It's okay for the History Channel if every thought starts in question form "Could/might/is it" and ends with the conclusion of noted _____ "thought/thinks/will think so". When the History Channel says that noted Bibleologist _____ concluded XT, that is a historical statement (not "XT" but that so and so concluded XT). As Yeshu Barra once said, "Sounds like Deja Jew all over again." Joseph

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