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A materialist is one who rejects all things supernatural. Since god is supernatural, all materialists are atheists. The vast bulk of atheists are materalists, but it is not strictly necessary that they be. I personally know one spiritual atheist, who is not a materialist. But we're working on her. A spiritual atheist is just uncommon: a spiritual materialist is the oxymoron. |
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![]() I live in a particularly godless part of the UK, so I wonder if people are more likely to interpret experiences, which would normally be seen as "the hand of god" in more religious communities, as psychic phenomena. There seems to be no shortage of victims/clients for psychics and mediums in the area, or people willing to entertain other wacky beliefs. I've found that, of the people I've met who self-identify as atheists (and I have no reason to doubt them), it is actually the minority who are materialists. It is quite common to hear people say, "I don't believe there's a god, but I don't think this is all there is." or some variation of this. They're not materialists, a lot of them probably don't indulge in logically rigorous analysis of their beliefs, but by the most basic definition, that of lacking belief in god, I would argue that they are atheists. Adding materialist, rationalist or any other requirements into the definition of atheism seems to be an unnecessarily divisive detour into the 'no true Scotsman' territory so beloved by the religiously intolerant. |
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