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12-25-2011, 09:16 PM | #101 |
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That's not exactly true. If the Roman authorities wanted the exclusivity in Galatians to apply they would have placed that statement in every epistle.
After all, if they were pretending that Galatian recipients should know about his exclusive gospel, then why wouldn't they pretend that Corinthians and Ephesians or anyone else should also know? This would suggest that the author of Galatians was different from the authors of other epistles no matter who wrote them. Besides, the gospel that ruled the day had to include the four canonical gospels which were different from the gospel of Galatians. The gospel of Christianity was alot more than the gospel of Galatians. It was the gospel of Mark, Matthew, Luke and john. And of course in Galatians the writer never clearly specifies what his gospel includes. But it isn't the same as the canonical gospels or even other epistles! |
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Please be Specific. If Paul did PREACH his GOSPEL all over the Roman Empire and in Major Cities then it is NOT NECESSARY for him to write EVERYTHING he preached in ALL the Epistles. And further, if the Pauline Epistles were read in the Churches then Galatians should have been KNOWN. |
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You are correct EXCEPT for fundamental doctrines! One would expect something as fundamental as the exclusivity of his gospel repeated just like faith in Christ and without the law which do get repeated.
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The Pauline "good news" (gospel) is "faith in Christ and without the law" and it is indeed REPEATED. Your argument that the so-called authentic letters are different is extremely weak based on your own observation that "faith in Christ and without the law" is repeated in the epistles. |
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But the EXCLUSIVE revelation and gospel is ALSO. a fundamental principle that surely would also be repeated to each "recipient community " along with the other principles IF Galatians were written by the same person as the others.
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In Galatians, with only SIX chapters, "faith and law" are mentioned about 40 times and Romans, with 16 chapters, "faith and law" are mentioned about 80 times. Galatians and Romans are INDEED fundamentally similar in doctrine. Unless you can find some other writings attributed to Paul which contradict the Epistles then you will not be able to show that the Pauline writings have different authors for the so-called authentic epistles. The evidence suggests that Paul was an INVENTION like Clement of Rome who was the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Bishop or Rome. |
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You are avoiding the point. In Galatians and ONLY in Galatians does the author claim the fundamental principle that his is an EXCLUSIVE revelation and gospel. And that others are by definition false or insufficient.
If the epistles were all written by the same person one would expect to see it repeated. The fact that it isn't indicates that the authors of other epistles shared their teachings and gospel and that the other writers did NOT believe they aa individuals had the exclusive corner on the Truth. Quote:
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The Fundamental Gospel, the good news of Paul, "faith without the Law" (faith without Works) was REPEATED. Romans 3:27 - Quote:
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However, the evidence from Apologetic sources suggest Paul and the Pauline writings were NOT from the 1st century and before the Fall of the Jewish Temple c 70 CE. |
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With all due respect you are engaging in obfuscation. I specifically said that a fundamental tenet of the Pauline teaching found in Galatians was that the writer's revelation and gospel was EXCLUSIVE to him, to the exclusion of any other. THIS fundamental tenet does not exist in any other epistle. IF the epistles were all written by the same hand, this FUNDAMENTAL TENET would certainly be found elsewhere in other epistles. IT IS NOT A LOCAL ISSUE. It is a fundamental and exclusive tenet of the teaching of the author of Galatians for the revelation of the Christ.
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Your posts typically consists of questions, rhetoric and unsubstantiated statements. I have SHOWN you the FUNDAMENTAL TENET, "faith without works" in ALL the supposed Authentic Epistles which suggest that they were most likely written by the same person. The TENET, the Pauline Gospel, "FAITH WITHOUT WORKS" is EXCLUSIVELY PAULINE in the NT CANON. |
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