Tuvar Ane Ingolenen

Since many creationist arguments follow the pattern:

Evolution must be false because <wild extrapolation of some misconception of what evolution is>.

Following the same pattern, a really stupid argument for evolution would be

'Creationism must be false because the Bible says dinosaurs did not have tails.'

Weltall

There are no stupid arguments, only stupid people...

Barbarian

buckshot23, did you think through what you were doing when starting such a thread? So far you proposed two "stupid arguments for evolution" and they were shown not to be arguments for evolution at all. (If you think they are, link us to the places they are used as such.) Let us say you can bring up three to five more, and they also turn out to be something else, not arguments for evolution. Don't you think this little exercise of yours will then backfire and show that there are no stupid arguments for evolution? What kind of impression will that failure create in the mind of members and lurkers, this latter category including your god? Meanwhile, you have to measure up your list, so far with zero valid entires, against the talkorigins index of stupid creationist arguments (and the index is not even complete, e.g. last I checked it did not contain the Argument from Bull).

Anyone else being reminded of Atheists Say the Darndest Things vs. FSTDT?

buckshot23

I have encountered those arguments in the past in favor for darwinism. That is why they are stupid arguments. I didn't say they were good arguments. There are plenty of stupid arguments for anything. You guys need to get a sense of humor. Most of the arguments posted in the stupid creation arguments are stupid. I would never use most of them. Lighten up. Remember I said this is not in regards to the the truth of darwinism or creationism. I hoped people could recall times when people made arguments for darwinism that were stupid.

Hiero5ant

Well, these aren't arguments for evolution, so I'm afraid the OP is still up a creek, but there is an unwritten list of "arguments people should not use in defense against creationist arguments.", of which my top two are:

"The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics only applies to closed systems."
"Scientists don't 'believe in' evolution."

Of course, neither of these are "stupid" either, just honest solecisms that are unnecessarily misleading.

buckshot23

Those are nice. Good job.

Again I know they are not arguments for evolution. Jeesh. They were used as such when I encountered them. That is why they are stupid.

Barbarian

Oh, so you say they are stupid because they were used as arguments for darwinism? We agree then. They are as stupid as arguments for darwinism as they would be as arguments against the Iraq war. But I still would like to see some links where they were used as arguments for darwinism. I will be sad if it turns out they were used in a personal conversation only.

OTOH, maybe I indeed need a sense of humor and some OP reading skills a.k.a. willing to assume best intentions. How should I know? I was reading your posts in other threads and thought you were meaning business here.

Also, I interpret your OP as an obvious prelude to saying that ignorant people are somehow equally distributed on both sides of the debate. But that is not the case: very few ignorant people accept evolution to the extent of arguing for it. Just check out this board to see what I mean.

Hiero5ant

Really? Someone actually said "2Lot doesn't apply to closed systems, therefore all life is descended from a common ancestor by means of gradual modification and diversification?"

Really? Got a link?

buckshot23

Not my example. I didn't say that one was used. To clarify the argument does not have to be directly in support of evolution to be FOR evolution. Like the closed system argument could be for evolution but not directly showing that evolution is true. I have encountered this argument before.

buckshot23

Sorry to disappoint you.
Naw. I was just having fun. The other threads are different.
This board is different. You guys know your stuff and I am sure I will learn quite a bit by being here. I am not under delusions that I am going to convert anybody here. This is a great way for me to learn more about this stuff. There is alot of ignorance about evolution by people who accept it that I have encountered. This board does not show that ignorance.