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Indian Guru · 10-03-2005, 10:01 AM

On the victims chest.

US Clergy's Defeaning Silence On Torture
By Ray McGovern
Information Clearing House.info
9-28-5

Where do American religious leaders stand on torture? Their deafening
silence evokes memories of the unconscionable behavior of German
church leaders in the 1930s and early 1940s.

http://www.rense.com/general67/silnec.htm

IsItJustMe · 10-03-2005, 02:08 PM

That's a good point. If clergy are to claim some sort of status as a moral voice, then they must ACT as a moral voice and they must do so CONSISTENTLY. Some do, of course. I am thinking here of the clergy, many of them Catholic, who have gone to jail for protesting the School of the Americas. But many more of them do not.

But is this not a problem worldwide? It seems to me India is very similar. You have a few really principled moral teachers who are also clergy and protest abuses in places like the Kashmir and you have far too many others who are quite silent on these problems.

David B · 10-03-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IsItJustMe

That's a good point. If clergy are to claim some sort of status as a moral voice, then they must ACT as a moral voice and they must do so CONSISTENTLY. Some do, of course. I am thinking here of the clergy, many of them Catholic, who have gone to jail for protesting the School of the Americas. But many more of them do not.

But is this not a problem worldwide? It seems to me India is very similar. You have a few really principled moral teachers who are also clergy and protest abuses in places like the Kashmir and you have far too many others who are quite silent on these problems.

Yup, and the same things apply to politicians, IMV.

Lets face it, if the Brits had put the same emphasis on destroying places that give support to terrorists that Bush has done in various places around the world, then before the peace process kicked into some sort of gear, we'd have nuked New York.

Allende. Ortega, Castro are names that spring to mind.

If the US government really took taking on terrorism seriously, lots of their political elder statemen would be in prison now.

David B (knows hypocricy when he sees it)

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IsItJustMe Veteran Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Next smoke-filled cellar over from Preno. Posts: 6,562	That's a good point. If clergy are to claim some sort of status as a moral voice, then they must ACT as a moral voice and they must do so CONSISTENTLY. Some do, of course. I am thinking here of the clergy, many of them Catholic, who have gone to jail for protesting the School of the Americas. But many more of them do not. But is this not a problem worldwide? It seems to me India is very similar. You have a few really principled moral teachers who are also clergy and protest abuses in places like the Kashmir and you have far too many others who are quite silent on these problems.

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