Starboy

I'm trying to help you out. You appear to be a magical thinker. You give words more power than they deserve. Your mantra of religion, religion, religion is not magically going to turn atheism into a religion. You should free you mind of words and concentrate on concepts, mind pictures if you will. When you have a framework of concepts that you are comfortable with try to find words that will best communicate those concepts to your audience. You could have some great ideas usartist but you are blowing it by using words magically.

Starboy

Yangja Isuko

if atheism is a religion, bald is a haircolor.

breathilizer

Wrong, sir. Theism is simply "the belief in a god." Religion is "a belief in (about) a god." Christianity is a religion because it holds specific beliefs about a god, that he is loving, forgiving, the creator, etc.

Theism is simply to say, "There is a God."

Religion is to say, "This is an attribute of said god."

In both cases, a god in involved. Atheism has no gods or god-like figures involved at all.

No it wouldn't. Would you like a new word to use instead of religion? How about culture? Attitude? World view?

They all have god/god-like figures. If you want to invent a new word for what you are trying to describe, by all means do so. But, religion already has a modern definition. Get over it.

Considering the modern definition of religion, there is no such thing as a non-theist religion.

usartist

My favorite.

Atheism is not a religion, just as theis is not a religion.

Atheist organizations are religions, just as theist organizations are religions.

But just for the skae of your incorrect argument:

"Atheism" is a religion, as bald is a hairstyle.

usartist

And, this 'modern definition' has atheists in a state of confusion - an inability to organize.

usartist

I appreciate your honest concern. You are the one giving the word, "religion," more power. You want to reserve it for theist organizations, just as theists would prefer it to be.

Atheism is not a religion, just as theism is not a religion. Atheist organizations are religions, just as theist organizations are religions.

Recognizing atheist organizations as religions will eliminate the overall confusion and apathy atheists hold towards atheist organizations. And as additional fallout will effectively dissolve the "power" theist organizations maintain.

Starboy

Perhaps I am, but if your goal is to form atheist organizations and you are getting all this flack by calling it a religion then the prudent thing to do would be to give it up. Now if on the other hand you had an ulterior motive that required that something be called an atheist religion then I would have to consider you with suspicion and wonder what that motive could be.

Starboy

breathilizer

Horse shit. Plenty of organizations exist without deeming themselves "religions."

Newton Joseph

For the past few years I have regulated my commitments. The past couple of years I have eliminated essentially all commitments. I have no job. I have no property that requires personal attention. I have no personal relationship with anyone.

I would suggest you seek professional help

usartist

My ulterior motive is really quite clear, I want to expedite the dismantle of theist organizations.