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Old 08-22-2011, 09:22 PM   #11
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It was more than a mullet. It was a work of art. My son inherited my hair. When it was full it was a glory to behold. Three different colo(u)rs naturally. It was like spun gold. If my hair didn't work out I wouldn't go to school:hysterical:
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Since when was dress and hair codes a valid criticism in Biblical Criticism and History? Cant you people focus on the data? Oh wait a moment .... Erhman isn't really presenting any new data? But we have a Canaveral style count-down ...
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Actually Pete, I was just watching a 2007 movie Dark Matter with Aidan Quinn and Meryl Streep and a bunch of Sino-American actors I never heard of before and it perfectly demonstrated the pettiness of the academic system. Even though - to my original point about hygiene in the universities - the main characters all looked clean. It such a petty business academia. I am first to acknowledge there has to be some way to keep the rabble out. I just find a lot of the debates - both here at the forum and in academia generally - are all about ego and imprecise terminology. I bet you this doesn't happen in Germany and other countries where language is very precise.

I still don't understand why we call it 'mythicism' for instance. Surely there has to be a better term for what it is supposed to be describing. But that's half the problem. How do we even know what we're debating if the terminology is so arbitrary? Anyway none of this has anything to do with the OP but what more can you say about a million part series by Bart Ehrman. I am always distracted by the way he looks. Seriously. But I am sure that's just me.

I am still old-fashioned, I can't help feel montrum in fronte, monstrum in animo. Ehrman is by no means ugly. But he's so undistinguished. He looks like an accountant or someone who works with actuary sciences. Marvin Meyer is attractive on the other hand. But then again James Tabor had that whole Kris Kristofferson thing going on. I don't know if the rule always applies. :constern01:
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It is worth documenting the 'Bart Ehrman look.' A kind of frumpy Don Johhson meets Columbo style:






Here he looks almost like a Shiite scholar for Hezbollah:



Here too even without the Arabic writing:









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Actually Pete, I was just watching a 2007 movie Dark Matter with Aidan Quinn and Meryl Streep and a bunch of Sino-American actors I never heard of before and it perfectly demonstrated the pettiness of the academic system. Even though - to my original point about hygiene in the universities - the main characters all looked clean. It such a petty business academia. I am first to acknowledge there has to be some way to keep the rabble out. I just find a lot of the debates - both here at the forum and in academia generally - are all about ego and imprecise terminology. I bet you this doesn't happen in Germany and other countries where language is very precise.
Maybe there is a downside to your Alma Mater's vaunted small class size? <said while sniffing my armpit>

When I graduated from Ohio State University with my degree in Psychology (you know what they say about Psych majors), I inquired of a Professor in the History dept and he seemed to be disillusioned by the work needed to enter the field (learn 4-5 languages, etc) only to receive little esteem from the wigs of bigness in the administration. For a bit, I even considered going for a second degree in - shudder - business!

At long last, sanity returned and I moved to L.A. California for a year of low pay, high rent and the local egotistical culture.

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Dear Stephen,

Two excellent additions to the 'Bart Ehrman look.' I hope they are intended as fashion statement only.

I might be influenced in my wardrobe.

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If the reader looks carefully I sport much the same look as Ehrman in my university photos (only with a much better head of hair) hence the irony. As I recall, the black sweater thing I was wearing was some wacky thing designed by Emanuel Ungaro. I actually had this amazing black Ungaro trench coat (mine wasn't leather as in the photo) and I was walking around with a cigarette one day and burned a hole in it. That was one of the saddest days of my life.
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I still don't understand why we call it 'mythicism' for instance.
People perhaps were looking for a term in the opposite sense of "history".


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Surely there has to be a better term for what it is supposed to be describing.

I have suggested that this term is "historicity" since it is an attribute shared by all parties.


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But that's half the problem. How do we even know what we're debating if the terminology is so arbitrary?
The ancient historical evidence, its chronology and its patterns?

But then again Biblical Historians appear to have a broader charter.




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Anyway none of this has anything to do with the OP but what more can you say about a million part series by Bart Ehrman.

Bart Ehrman is exposing to the general public at large (or rather anyone interested) all the arcane material related to Biblical Criticism and history, but without delivering any specific historical narrative that is new. This field has descended from the Nicaean Council itself. Before the internet explosion (say 1993+) how would anyone not in theologically trained be familiar with any of the subject matter that appear for example in the threads of this forum. There were books of course, but generally not for the public at large.

He has a vast collection of anecdotal tales, but none that appear novel, rather a series that has been gradually obtained over decades of academic study.




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I am always distracted by the way he looks. Seriously. But I am sure that's just me.

I dont take things personally. Life's too short to do that. Toto already mentioned the "Last Supper" painting hanging on the background wall, and from memory there was a podium on which an open codex languished.

I am always distracted by the reasonableness in the position that all "Codex Religions" must have been invented religions in today's terminological world on account of the copyright invested in the original authors (and perhaps the design and patent of the codex manufacture). Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Smith's Mormons, Scientology --- all these world religions based on a specific writing by the hand of a human being in history. In one true historical sense they are all authorial inventions.

Erhman writes freely about forgery in the early church for example but allows further investigation of the forgeries, presumeably, to others.
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