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11-25-2007, 09:02 PM
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is the following video accurate? [truthbeknown]
http://www.truthbeknown.com/
and has josephus's reference to christ really been proved as a forgery? |
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11-26-2007, 12:05 AM
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No. That video is horribly inaccurate, and perpetuates a number of known falsities. Josephus' TF has been proven corrupted, but not a forgery, per se.
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11-26-2007, 12:09 AM
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I can't get to that video. The site is Acharya S's.
The reference to Jesus in the TF has been show to be a complete forgery to some people's satisfaction, and at least corrupted to other's satisfaction. You will never get to a proof that will satisfy everyone. |
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11-26-2007, 12:09 AM
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11-26-2007, 12:10 AM
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11-26-2007, 12:17 AM
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11-26-2007, 01:50 AM
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But other than that, it is quite factual, and paints a very plausible origin of the christ myth as being astronomical/logical. /Z |
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11-26-2007, 02:00 AM
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so all the astrology stuff is valid?
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11-26-2007, 02:22 AM
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 That the sun "stands still" for 3 days before rising again? Not really, but it will appear so without instruments. That there are 12 zodiac signs? Yes. The precession of the equinoxes? Yes. I think it's fairly plausible hypothesis that Christendom is a misinterpretation of an ancient sun-myth, mistakenly taken as an actual-personification when it was really about a symbolic-personification. However, the main objection is, that I'm not sure the "late december" date really figured that prominently in the original mythology. It is for example - as far as *I* know - never mentioned in the Bible itself. That we celebrate Christmas at the date we do is because the date was picked up from pagan rituals that nobody ever denied was in place to celebrate the winter solistice. So my question is, was the "late december" date already there, or did it get tacked on with the (late) joining of christianity with Yule/Saturnalia/winter equinox celebrations? I must admit I do not know. This is one of the parts that is "off" about the video; I don't think there is a "december 25:th" date prominently connected to either of these "saviour gods". But I may be wrong, maybe there is... /Z |
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11-26-2007, 04:43 AM
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