andrewcriddle

Could you give an ancient source for this please ?

Andrew Criddle

Duvduv

Doesn't AA ever get tired of claiming an empirically unproven document is "credible"?? How the hell does AA know who and when the so-called Apology was actually written?!! Because church tradition says so?! How unbiased and credible is that?!
AA, at least ADMIT your abiding FAITH in empircally unprovable assertions!!

aa5874

Apparently you have never been to a trial. Witnesses whose statements are compatible and in agreement with the RECOVERED physical evidence can be accepted as Credible since witness statements for the prosecution and for the defence may not agree or may be contradictory.

You seen not able to understand what an argument is.

My argument is based on sources that I have found to be credible--they are Compatible with ACTUAL Recovered DATED Texts which show ZERO--NIL--NONE--NO activities of Jesus, the disciples and Paul in the 1st century and before c 68 CE.

Justin claimed his Jesus was produced WITHOUT Sexual union, was like the Myth Fables of the Greeks and Romans and wrote NOTHING of the cult after Jesus ascended.

If you are arguing that Justin is NOT Credible then you simply show where he is NOT.

As soon as you can show within reason that Justin is NOT Credible then I will have to REVIEW my argument.

Again, my sources are NOT the Pauline letters and Acts of the Apostles because I have found them NOT Credible and NOT compatible with the Recovered dated Texts.

Duvduv

I love that expression "that I found to be credible. "
Does only AA and whst he finds "credible" count??!!
With his other favorite word, "compatible ".

aa5874

Please name your Credible Sources for your argument that the Jesus story and cult were from the 4th or 5th century.

Are you using Irenaeus and Eusebius???

Sheshbazzar

Your 'Source' Justin wrote that Jesus lived and was crucified during the rule of Pontius Pilate;
Tell us aa, did your 'credible' witness write these words in the 2nd century CE?

Are his words credible?



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aa5874

Please, Justin NAMED his Sources--the Acts of Pontius Pilate. Justin BELIEVED his Sources just like Jews BELIEVE their Bible.

Is a Jew NOT Credible if he believes Moses wrote the Pentateuch???

If you want to appear Credible you MUST also name your Sources.

What did the Catholics write???

Sheshbazzar

Who wrote The Acts of Pontius Pilate aa?
In what country was The Acts of Pontius Pilate written?
In what language was The Acts of Pontius Pilate written?
In what year was The Acts of Pontius Pilate written?

Would it injure you, for to just once admit that there are some things that you don't know?
_Obviously, yes it would, as your argument depends upon persuading others that you do know the things that you don't.


Most people here know the English language well enough to know that 'Catholics' is a plural. As well as 'Catholic writings', and 'Catholic Doctrines'. There are many. But they constitute one body.
They composed huge amounts of religious literature for centuries. They 'borrowed' and added to, and diminished from the ancient writings of other religions.

You wish to know their names? Go inquire for that information from the same Source that you got the name of Saint 'Justin' the 'Martyr' from.
I'm sure that Source will be more than happy to supply you with a list of hundreds of names of their other 'saints' and their writings from their archives.



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Sheshbazzar

Yes. He is NOT Credible.

;-)

We have several Jewish people who regularly participate in these Forums.
I am not aware of a single one that seriously claims to believe that any 'Moses' wrote the Pentateuch.
That is why they ARE Credible Jews.

aa5874

What utter absurdity. The Jews that lived in antiquity are NOT on these Forums.

Jews of antiquity BELIEVED the Hebrew Bible and that Moses wrote the Pentateuch.

Justin is NOT on this Forum.