BDS

Another supporter of Genghis Khan speaks up.

Still, as great as Genghis was, I might think that a traditional Catholic would think the FIRST century vaguely more important. Hmmmm. I think I can see why some of the Fundamentalists object to Catholics, since Albert appears to think Acquinas and Assisi were "greater" than Jesus.

truthie

No. There would be other kinds of biases and prejudices created. Haven't you read about those ancient societies? They were no better or more perfect than this modern era, bad things were still happening.

The same as if women were the dominators on Earth, the planet would still suck, but in other different ways.

T. (Female and ex-neopagan (Wiccan)).

Hedshaker

God is obviously a closet gay

Just read the bible: me think he doth protest too much

Orbit

Albert Cipriani

Is that why Medieval Churches were used as solar observatories? Is that why Pope Gregory introduced a new calendar that corrected all the errors of the Julian calendar via the revolutionary concept of leap years? Is that why the father of heliocentricism, Copernicus, was a priest? Is that why the father of genetics, Gregor Mandel, was also, literally a father, that is, a priest?

Next time, try to support your prejudices against the Church before spewing them.

Oooo, I’m so impressed. How clever. First you identify with a derogatory term an era that you wish to disparage. Then you claim that the derogatory term you used to designate that era proves that era was a derogation. If your “argument� was any more circular, it'd be spherical. – Albert the Traditional Catholic

Answerer

Guess who invented gunpower, compass, etc at a time where Europeons still believed the Earth was flat and young.

Capybara

I don't think he means that East, I think he means the evil Arab infidels who failed to become Christians.

Answerer

Well, Arabs are not atheistic...........

Capybara

Um, no, Arabs aren't generally atheistic. (I guess some are in the broad sense of the term "Arab", but not in the sense we're using here, i.e. the Arab world vs. the Christian Europe world in the middle ages.) I'm sorry, Answerer, are you replying to Albert the Traditional Catholic's saying "the east never converted" or to my line facetiously calling them infidels? They would be infidels to a Christian, even if they weren't atheists, right? I'm sort of confused.

TySixtus

Is that why Aloysius Lilius, an advisor to Gregory, is the one who really developed the new calendar? Is that why development of the 'Gregorian' calendar was started in 325 AD, when it was recognized the that Julian calendar was faulty?


Is that why he was terrified to reveal the truth about Heliocentricism until just before he died? Is that why the Catholic Church, in 1616, outlawed the reading of De Revolutionibus, and claimed his teaching heretical? Is that why Copernicus had a doctorate in church cannon, but was NEVER a priest?
http://www.ehistory.com/world/amit/d...m?amit_id=2044


Is that why Mendel was a monk, and not a priest?

Is that why you enjoy kicking your own argument's asses with factual errors? And is that why you never responded to my earlier posts, in which I refuted all of your claims?

Ty

Albert Cipriani

You don't need to guess who put gunpowder to use. The Catholic west did. Rather than treat it as a play thing, we conquered the world with it, tunneled through mountains with it, AND eventually came to celebrate holidays with it, which is the only thing its inventors could figure out to do with it.

Ditto for the compass. We used it to circumnavigate the globe, a few centuries after the Chinese destroyed their entire fleet of far more sea-worthy vessels because they thought the world wasn't as interesting as their own back yards.

The East had every advantage, and took none of them because they didn’t have the one thing the West did have, the dynamic Judeo-Christian Greco-Roman tradition that distills down into a belief in contradiction. The East is still saddled with their quasi-religious handicap of all things being one, of harmony, of the negation of differences, whereas, the West has always reveled in differences.

The West saw nature as defective and in need of conquering or improving. The East was only too happy to be in harmony with Nature. That’s the difference that has made all the difference. – Sincerely, Albert the Traditional Catholic