xaxxat

Hey there, Mr. Messiah, can you fix my prostate for me? It's acting up again.

And can you give us world peace? And maybe do something for all the amputees too?

Thanks...

Larsguy47

:> Sure. But start a new thread. I don't want this high-jacked with messiah talk and get it sent to "E". So I'm trying to keep this on point for the SK400. What did you think about the presentation and the double-dating to the same dating as the VAT4956? Isn't astronomy fascinating?

This text along with the VAT4956 will eventually force the down-dating of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar and when that happens, there will be complete harmony between the Biblical timeline and the archaeological timeline from this period all the way back to Joseph and Apophis in Egypt.


LG47

Ubercat

And you don't think that laughing down at us while we all pant in hell will constitute sufficient support?

-Ubercat

Ubercat

How could anyone send it to 'E'? Just use your supergod powers to force it to remain here.

-Ubercat

Larsguy47

Oh yeah! And speaking of double-dating in the SK400, did you realize that an "encrypted" reference preempts the primary text reference? Why? Because nobody hides a fake date! They always hide the true date in among the fake dating. Both texts, the VAT4956 and the SK400 are "diaries", that is, not single references but multiple references. The primary purpose here would be to create enough context and "diversion" to "hide in plain sight" the "scribal errors" relating to the original chronology.

BUT, this isn't new and though I allude to Jews being involved, the first person to really perfect this was Herodotus! He used eclipses to supplant the "politically correct" history, like the famous Thales eclipse that is impossible for 585BCE and certainly didn't happen during the reign of Nabonidus, but does fit the dating when the 7th of Nebuchadnezzar is dated to 541BCE! That's because the 1st of Cyrus would date to 455BCE, as I've said, and Cyrus began to rule in the 6th year of Nabonidus, allowing us to date the 1st 2 years of Nabonidus from 480-478BCE and look for a predictable eclipse occuring in Ionia there. Of course, it was there! So Herodotus is thought of as the first to use astronomical clues to the original chronology, something completely oblivious to the average reader but an error only that an astronomer would note. So it was super safe, until the invention of modern astronomy programs. So the Thales eclipse, the VAT496 and the SK400 are three texts now in total astronomical agreement. There is one other one, but it's waay too complex to get into.

Thales Eclipse Redating

Thanks for asking!

LG47

RED DAVE

From Larsguy47:
Like when you revised Greek history just because you wanted Socrates to fuck Aristotle: based on a secret book that you've yet to prove exists.

Frankly, given what you've said about yourself, I think you're jealous.

RED DAVE

Larsguy47

I should have never mentioned that reference and said it was only an "unconfirmed rumour"! Believe me, it's not something anyone would "connect" in the casual! It's just that it was there and then when I compared Phaedo with Aristotle's life and the age of Phaedo and Aristotle at the new date for Socrates' death being so similar, and all those quotes from Aristotle of Socrates... Anyway, as I said, there should be no gay shock wave going on here, since Socrates is confirmed to have had male lovers, possibly even executed for having gone over the line somewhat as he as executed for "corrupting the youth." Plato claims the greatest love ever is that between two men, so we presume he certainly was speaking from experience. And if Aristotle avoided being a protege to some older man it would seem somewhat the exception to the rule. So Aristotle and Socrates not being lovers is just a detail to what was going on. You act as if neither one of them would have ever done any such thing!

As far as my historical "theories"; I present them as such and show the basis for those theories -- missed eclipses, contradictions in history like Plato being consulted at the beginning of the PPW when he wasn't even born yet, etc.

But, of course, if you ever find double-dating in an astronomical DIARY, then you're forced to presume the cryptic date is the true date over the politically correct dating. In that case, the best reference we have for dating the NB Period are in the cryptic double-dating found in the SK400 and VAT496, both of which agree on the same chronology, which the Bible confirms is the correct chronology.

LG47

spin

Which you droned on over for many posts. Ooops, it's an "unconfirmed rumour"!

You don't present them as 'historical "theories"', as there is little to do with history about them. They are based on your massaging possible references to astronomical events into your biblical fantasies.


spin

3DJay

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaedo_of_Elis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle

• Phaedo was a native of Elis, born in the last years of the 5th century BC.
• Aristotle was born in Stageira in Chalcidice. His parents were Phaestis and Nicomachus, who became physician to King Amyntas of Macedon.

• In the war of 401 BC-400 BC between Sparta and Elis Phaedo was taken prisoner and became a slave in Athens in a boy bordello, where his beauty brought him notoriety.
• Aristotle was educated as a member of the aristocracy.

• Phaedo became a pupil of Socrates, who conceived a warm affection for him and had him freed. It appears that he was friends with Cebes and Plato, and he gave his name to one of Plato's dialogues, Phaedo. (Aeschines also wrote a dialogue called Phaedo). Athenaeus relates, however, that he resolutely denied the veracity of any of the views which Plato ascribed to him, and that his relationship with Plato was quite unfriendly.
• At about the age of eighteen, he went to Athens to continue his education at Plato's Academy. Aristotle remained at the Academy for nearly twenty years, not leaving until after Plato's death in 347 BC.

• Shortly after the death of Socrates, Phaedo returned to Elis, where his disciples included Anchipylus, Moschus and Pleistanus, who succeeded him.
• He then traveled with Xenocrates to the court of Hermias of Atarneus in Asia Minor. While in Asia, Aristotle traveled with Theophrastus to the island of Lesbos, where together they researched the botany and zoology of the island. Aristotle married Hermias' daughter (or niece) Pythias. She bore him a daughter, whom they named after his wife, Pythias. Soon after Hermias' death, Aristotle was invited by Philip of Macedon to become tutor to Alexander the Great.

• Subsequently Menedemus and Asciepiades transferred the school to Eretria, where it was known as the Eretrian school and is frequently identified (e.g. by Cicero) with the Megarians. The doctrines of Phaedo are not known, nor is it possible to infer them from the Platonic dialogue of which he is the namesake. His writings, none of which are preserved, were in the form of dialogues. As to their authenticity, nothing is known, in spite of an attempt at verification by Panaetius (Diogenes Laertius ii. 64), who maintains that the Zopyrus and the Simon are genuine. Seneca has preserved one of his dicta (Epist. 94. 41), namely that one method of acquiring virtue is to frequent the society of good men.
• After spending several years tutoring the young Alexander, Aristotle returned to Athens. By 335 BC, he established his own school there, the Lyceum. Aristotle directed courses at the Lyceum for the next twelve years. While in Athens, his wife Pythias died. Aristotle soon became involved with Herpyllis of Stagira, who bore him a son whom he named after his father, Nicomachus.

Let me get this straight...when you compared them, you came to the conclusion that they were the same person...concluding that the numerous contradictions are untrue? Yet, you want to rewrite history, because you whoheartedly believe some vague "contradiction" about Plato, is true?

Didn't we already try tracing your Plato legend. It led to a short quote, by a mathematician, about a document, written by another mathematician, which quotes another document, also written by a mathematician, that no longer exists. And, the short quote provided no sense of chronology. The Delians had tried, and failed, to solve the problem themselves. Nothing says how long that took.

http://user.tninet.se/~oof408u/fkf/e.../furulirev.htm


Peace

Larsguy47

You know, I kept thinking about this statement and realized that probably why I post this is because I developed a love and fascination for astronomy! But I wasn't born with this information. I had to research it and I had some serious learning curves to get over. And most importantly, I'm still learning! I learn refinements all the time.

But yes, this post is probably geared at scholars in the field more than the lay person, but I posted the photos to make it easier for everyone. So if you don't know that much about this, just expose yourself and absorb as much as you can. Then the next time some astrochronology comes up will have something to background it to.

LG47