Originally Posted by aa5874

It is not necessary for me to demonstrate that each and every aspect of Superman is fictitious, I have not read every single article about Superman, I have not read every single comic book, yet I can assert that Superman is fictitious since his origin and birth is fictitious.

The authors of Superman claimed he originated from an unknown planet, Krypton, and was sent to earth on some type of vehicle to earth, where he was found and raised by unknown, supposedly real people. That is the fundamental core of Superman and it is fiction and I do not have to find out if everyone named Clark Kent living in the USA or anywhere in the world, qualifies to be Superman. I do not have to prove that his method of movement through the air is fictitious.

Now, I will tell you that the fundamental core of Jesus the Christ is the virgin birth and it is fiction. Jesus the Christ was sent from an unknown location called heaven, by his unknown father, through the means of an unknown medium, which resulted in his birth and was raised by unknown parents. I do not have to prove that his method of healing his fictitious or that anyone with the name Jesus qualifies to be the Christ.

It is so easy to see that Superman is fiction yet so difficult, by some, to see the very same fictitious core of Jesus the Christ.

Originally Posted by Perahelion

Come on guys and girls, a guy was born without sperm and then rose from the dead, and he chose this one of trillions of billions of planets in the Universe and one poorly technically and primitively organized species to get sweaty about, pull the other one.

Originally Posted by Larsguy47

Typical lack of insight of THE BIG PICTURE. The earth was the beginning of things and so things had to be set striaght here first, Satan destroyed, all the morality established, etc. Once that occurs likely the entire universe will be populated from the perfected humanity here. The test of the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden was a primary test not for Adam and Eve but Satan. Satan was the problem, God wanted to get rid of him, so SIN and DEATH were created as a means to do that for any beings who were willing to put their money where their mouth was and put their actions on the line. By doing this first here, small scale in one place, the benefits can be transferred eternally and universally.

LG47

Originally Posted by spin

You know who the writers of Superman were, for whom they wrote, the genre and why. You don't know the same about the gospel writers, so yours is a bad example.

Originally Posted by spin

Cheese and chalk.

You know who the writers of Superman were, for whom they wrote, the genre and why. You don't know the same about the gospel writers, so yours is a bad example.

As an aside: do you honestly believe that the writers set about concocting a Jesus religion as a fictional effort?


spin

Originally Posted by J-D

There is no general algorithm for differentiating true from false. How do you differentiate true from false?

I would assume that believers feel as much need to differentiate true from false to nonbelievers. Obviously they make mistakes some times, but so do nonbelievers. What's your point?

Originally Posted by J-D

This thread began, as I pointed out, with aa5874 asserting the truth of a number of statements. aa5874 has never backed up those assertions. Now you are asserting the truth of a number of statements:

that 'Biblical claims are beyond proof';

that they 'are just tall tales';

that 'not only are the fictions within it [the Bible] unproven, they are unprovable';

that it 'is a whole fabric of lies'.

Until you produce something to support these claims, I will, as you suggest, give them no cognitive weight.

Originally Posted by Steve Weiss

Please look up the word "propaganda" in an unabridged dictionary and then you may have some insight into the motivation of the writers, whoever they were, of that hodgepodge referred to as the bible. Hint: objective reporting wasn't one of them.

Originally Posted by mountainman

Eusebius Pamphilus of Caesarea either wrote or edited the gospels.
The sponsored authors wrote for Constantine, the genre was
ecclesiastical and theological romance, and the purpose of the
fabrication of the Galilaeans was to surplant the Hellenic
culture, gold and riches into bullnecks pocket.