Mageth

Incredibly, of all the people that died in the 1st century, only Jesus' body has never been found!

ziffel

Which could also be evidence that Jesus never existed.

OldYgg

You need to pray for this stuff? Weird. I call it self-confidence, being raised well by my parents, knowing what I want in life, etc...

So, without praying you are incredibly weak, lack patience, have no confidence, need reassurance before you can make any decisions, don't have happiness, are uncomfortable, cannot understand anything among other things.

Perhaps it is out of your range of experience, but I have no need for a god to provide me with those things. Witnessing the many Christians around me I'd say that even with their god they don't really have any of those things, either.

Old Ygg

OldYgg

Well you know, there is that great encyclopedia of dead bodies from over all time and his casket is empty...

Oh, wait, does this mean that everyone we can't find a body for in the 1st century is a half-human half-god? Holy crap!

Old Ygg

LogDog

Why not?

His death would have provided them with an opportunity. They already had means and motive.

Johann Sin

Scientific / historical / extra-biblical proof? No. No evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ, the son of god ever existed as a physical human. As such, don't you think it is simply not possible to find evidence that a non-existing being has ever done anything? Much less a specific task like saving someone.

Biblical proof? Yes, but it is all circular and also refutable.

Valdemar

Sure. Earnestly and with all my heart. Nothing happened. Sorry.

Valdemar

I got all these things AFTER I grew up (i.e. became non-religious) and started reaching out to people and reading things other than Christian apologetics.

You have just described that which is gained from maturity, not that which is gained from prayer.

riklite

I saved 10% on my car insurance by switching to Jesus. Oh wait, that's Geico.

OldYgg

interestingly enough you provide in the same paragraph the answer to your own question.

"The Disciples would not have preached Christianity after Jesus' death, if they did not whole heartedly believe that he appeared before them."

"And, FYI, the Muslims who die for whatever reason, don't think it is a lie."

There is no difference between the Muslims that you think believe in a lie and the disciples who preach Christianity that is probably untrue either.

People that do things based on belief can do anything, any atrocity, as long as they believe what they are doing is right. Just look at Cho Sueng-Hui equating himself with Jesus and believing he was some kind of Holy Warrior going out to kill those students at Virginia Tech. Do you think he believed in Jesus? Do you think he felt what he was doing was to be Jesus-like (or whatever idea of Jesus he had in his mind, anyway)?

A person performing actions based on belief is in no way motivation for people who do not initially believe to perform similar action or for them to be given motive to believe.

Do you think the moslems truly believed when they flew aircraft in to the twin towers? The towers were only 15 miles away from my house. I know I think the had a whole lot of belief in something before destroying thousands of people.

Old Ygg