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Old 08-21-2009, 02:33 PM   #61
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Tertullian even said the apostle John appointed Polycarp.
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So it all comes down the resurrection. If you can't find a naturalistic theory that fits the data, then you know Jesus is God.
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Biblio - I have to ask this. Are you getting course credit for posting this here? Which seminary?
Now there's an interesting question.

I trust that Biblio will get round to answering it.

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I can't believed they locked my 3 other threads when we were in the middle of a discussion. Crazy censorship here.
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You really box your mindset in when you censor like that.
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No naturalistic theory, then you are admitting yourself to Hell.
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Gday,

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Group hallucinations are impossible. Many people can see something off in the distance because there is a real objective reference, but they can't all see the same hallucination.
What hallucination?
No-one claimed to meet Jesus (apart from the forged 2 Peter.)


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Jesus actually has more documentation than Caesar has. He claimed He was God and proved it by His resurrection with multiple attestation. I for one don't know how to overturn this fact. You still have to account for their eyewitness claims.
Bollocks.

We have statues of Caesar.
Nothing for Jesus.

We have coins showing Caesar's likeness.
Nothing for Jesus.

We have writings from Caesar's own hand
Nothing for Jesus.

We have writings from Caesar contempraries who met him.
No contemporary claimed to have personally met Jesus, apart from the forged 2 Peter.

We have archeological evidence of Caesar's fights (e.g. Alesia.)
Nothing for Jesus.

We have Caesar's family details.
No evidence for Jesus or family existing.

We know where Caesar's tomb is sto this day.
No idea where Jesus' tomb is - there are FOUR tombs of Jesus.

We have laws and history done by Caesar.
Nothing for Jesus.


There is a VAST mountain of evidence for Caesar.
But just a few anonymous stories for Jesus, with NO hard evidence of ANY kind.


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Compare that to Jesus, in which we have 42 writers within 150 years of his death. About a third were non-Christian.

Notice too that Julius Caesar within 150 years of his death, only 5 writers wrote about his military conquests.
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John wrote in John he was at the crucifixion.
No he didn't.
You keep saying completely FALSE statements without any quotes.



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Peter wrote Peter, James wrote James, Matthew wrote Matthew,
Wrong.


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Paul wrote his epistles,
Paul never met Jesus.


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Mark saw Jesus and notes it in Mark and Jude in Jude.
No he doesn't
Which is why you failed AGAIN to quote it.


Biblo - not one single person here believes anything you say - I hope you reach your required post count soon and go away.


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Biblo, if you want to avoid closed threads, spend more than 30 seconds on writing a post. If you come up with honest thoughtful coherent ideas, people will respond in kind. If you bang out one-liners where you don't even argue, just make assertions, no one will even value your opinion, much less humour the thought that you might have a point about anything.
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