AJ113

Jesus Who?

AJ113

Your opinion appears to based on selective reading.

Skeptic Pete

Whoa up there!
Jesus was a great humanist?
Defender of social justice?
Most moving sentiments in civilised history?

You must be joking.

IS CHRIST OUR EXAMPLE?

He never said a word in favor of education. He never even hinted at the existence of any science. He never uttered a word in favor of industry, economy or of any effort to better our condition in this world. He was the enemy of the successful, of the wealthy. Dives was sent to hell, not because he was bad, but because he was rich. Lazarus went to heaven, not because he was good, but because he was poor.

Christ cared nothing for painting, for sculpture, for music -- nothing for any art. He said nothing about the duties of nation to nation, of king to subject; nothing about the rights of man; nothing about intellectual liberty or the freedom of speech. He said nothing about the sacredness of home; not one word for the fireside; not a word in favor of marriage, in honor of maternity.

He never married. He wandered homeless from place to place with a few disciples. None of them seem to have been engaged in any useful business, and they seem to have lived on alms.

All human ties were held in contempt; this world was sacrificed for the next; all human effort was discouraged. God would support and protect.

At last, in the dusk of death, Christ, finding that he was mistaken, cried out: "My God My God! Why hast thou forsaken me?"

http://www.infidels.org/library/hist...oly_bible.html

Jesus was a BAD philosopher.

Regards
Skeptic Pete

PS. IS there any "evidence" anywhere in the Bible of Jesus laughing?
Is laughing not a universal human trait?

Philippe*

Isn't it amazing how two thousands years later Jesus is still the most controversial man Earth has ever carried ?

More than a rock star, just that is enough for me to give him a thumb up :thumbs:

Philippe

Skeptic Pete

Hate to break the news to you Philippe but most of the people on this planet now or in the past have never heard of this jesus guy.

Many rock stars like the Beatles are far more famous than jesus.

And the reason he is so controversial is that he is a figment of many imaginations. Like Space Chef said "which jesus" Paul's jesus, Mark's jesus?

capsaicin67

Like Hitler, he moves copy. Whatever else--if he existed at all---he somehow became a focal point historically and politically.

If he didn't exist, well, he sure became one dominant figure in human mythology.

If he did exist I doubt he was as spectacular as his press makes him out to be, like most historical figures and I imagine the story was probably a lot smaller and cruder and crazier. I imagine he had "issues", and was of course, a lot more like other attention hogs and public figures and rebels that usually are a mixed bag of pros and cons. I think it's hilarious how conservatives play him up to be their role model whilst accumulating gaudy and obscene material goods and capital and celbrate the superficial and status quo. I'd guess that he was more of an alternative lifestyle slacker that spent a lot of time hanging with the rabble and rocking the boat and as the story goes, the pious hypocrites and muckety mucks. And I'd guess he could easily have beena manipulative, emotionally unstable or , um, "eccentric", pain in the arse. But I bet he liked to hang in the shade of the palms, having some dates and wine, good times with his groupies, and getting his phreak on, too. But I imagine he took shits and had dirty fingernails and and got itches and the munchies and said stupid things he regretted. If he's like most people. Which, then, I suspect he was. If he existed at all.

Philippe*

It was some humor, there is nothing broken, I have not spoken exactly of celebrity. I don't think Beatles have been more controversial for the past two millenia.

but we will see in the future...

Triple Six

If he existed at all, a minor league rabble rouser. And given the early death a failure so :down: Though I must admit his post death publicity machine and business spin offs are even better than what the Elvis industry has managed.

sourdough

more like rebel without a clue :rolling:

Yahzi

Um... no.

"I come only for the lost sheep of Israel."

"If you do not hate your family..."

And of course his immortal words on slavery:

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Of course, you specified "authentic," meaning "the good stuff, ignoring all the bad stuff." In which case I agree; Jesus, stripped of every possible negative, and imbued with positives he does not deserve, is a really cool guy.