Bob K

contracycle

contracycle:I don’t claim that Xnity provides a message of peace and love.

Check my website: www.bobkwebsite.com

In fact, Xnity sanctions slavery and the selling of daughters into slavery, esp. sexual slavery.

[See http://www.bobkwebsite.com/biblesanctionsslavery.html]

And the Babel thus speaketh:

Exod. 15:3. The LORD is a man of war.

vs.

Rom. 15:33. Now the God of peace be with you.

But never forget thus: Matt. 5:17-19. Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am come not to destroy, but to fulfill.

Therefore, J does not contradict the OT/Old Testament, but somehow 'fulfills' it.

This means J does not condemn but instead sanctions slavery and the selling of daughters into slavery and war and, ...

[See http://www.bobkwebsite.com/biblclcntrdctns.html]

Take your pick: the Babel can be construed to mean almost anything.

You have stated--to paraphrase--that 'hatred and anger are more powerful than christian teaching' without discussing the reality that if you love your spouse/children/family/friends/nation/etc. you defend them whenever necessary from injury, and that defense, therefore, becomes an act of love, and therefore an act of practical necessity, and it is not necessarily an act of 'hatred and anger.'

You will never be able to defend imposing a philosophy of turning the cheek--allowing criminals to injure innocents--when 'cheek' implies the health/lives/liberties/properties--the 'cheeks'--of innocent individuals who otherwise would be and ought to be defended.

contracycle

Sure. Thats precisely the motivation that drove the Sept 11th hijackers.

premjan

to be willing to kill yourself to save others is love (i.e. Jesus).
so to be be willing to kill yourself to kill others can't be called hate can it?

Conchobar

The worst statements I hear over here (Northern Ireland) is that of Robertson and Falwell. They said that 9-11 happened because Americans turned away from the fundamentalist model God. Since Fundamentalists are 50% of the Population, he was blaming a lot of people, but then he clarified it to mean the unbelievers, pagans, and homosexuals.

Doesn't that wanker know that Al Qaeda Terrorists were not unbelievers? They are/were very very devout worshippers of the Abrahamic anthropomorphic God. Whether they were homosexuals is not known to me. I know they were not pagans. Homosexuals are common in the Christian clergy so go figure.

Conchobar

livius drusus

I have split the Middle Eastern politics derailment and moved it to PD. Please continue any such discussion there and limit posts on the this thread to the issue of Christian teaching and the response to terrorism.

Thank you,
livius drusus
Moderator, GRD