Chris Weimer

Why should anyone believe the Bible? If Jesus cannot prove to him his honest request, than maybe he's not God afterall. I mean, being God, why does he limit himself to some book? Especially one that is full of contradictions, outdated, proved full of bullshit by science, and written many years after the events they made up?

Joan of Bark

You have the Koran. Allah does not have to prove himself again. If you can't accept this, that is your fault.

Diogenes the Cynic

This is a classic example of circular logic. Essentially you're telling us the Bible is true because the Bible says so. I'd advise you to really think about that argument for a few seconds and decide if that's really the kind of approach that's likely to shake any trees around here.

lao tzu

Can't check you on that one, Diogenes, this is just middlin' circular logic. A truly classic example of circular logic would be to ask Thomas to read the bible.

Chuckling Atheist

Proven himself? Neither he nor his apostles wrote about his miracles. That happened decades later via second-hand and even third-hand stories. Hardly reputable.

We need irrefutable scientific evidence. The bible is not scientific. Since it gets so many things wrong and tends to exaggerate actual historical events, it must be discounted. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Where is it?

I. C. Unicorns

You have the Bhagavad-gita. Lord Krishna does not have to prove himself again. He's done it once. If you can't accept this, that is your fault



This is kinda fun!

cgordon

My favorite bible verse:
>32 and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

Truly. And the truth is, there's nothing to support the validity of the Bible being a work of history or anything else but a collection of myth and superstition.

The truth? No gods, no saviors, no devils, no sin.

Just us. Here. Now. Make the best of it, becuse YOU are responsible for your failings and wrongdoings. Here. Now.

No heaven, no hell. Just here. And now.

Get used to it.

Ok, rant aside ... Half-Life, what part of the idea that we don't accept your Holy Scripture as fact don't you get? If you can provide any scrap of evidence for their veracity, outside of quoting the Bible itself (circular reasoning ring a bell?), we'll consider your assertations. Until then, please, go read your Bible. Carefully. Take notes. Learn some old Greek and read some of the original texts (I did so at about age 18). Take more notes and compare versions.

Study the history of your own professed religion and stop accepting dogma as eternal truth. If you want to be a Christian, at LEAST, be an informed and literate one.

TomboyMom

How do I know the bible is true?

Chili

Just be true to your own self.

You are the truth to which the bible testifies except that you may be in its early stage of cognition and therefore do not re-cognize this.

Truth is prior to us by nature and posterior to us in poetics such as the bible.

I should add here that religion uses this order to attract believers which is not what I am suggesting you should do.

Kosh

Since no one has said this yet...

I find it increasingly difficult to detect anything other than preaching and witnessing (ie, apologetics) in your posts. The stuff that used to get posts transferred to ~elsewhere~.