Keith&Co.

I think it's similar to the constant thumper assertion that if we were in a foxhole, bleeding, we'd know, deep down, to call on God.

Or our mommy, to come to the theatre of combat and kiss it and make it better. Either one's equally likely, and equally useful in making the boo-boo go away.

Draconis

Nah, the best way to demonstrate it is to work to spread the word... like every other belief system does.

Selsaral

The foundation of this post seems to be the assertion that we should be terrified of angering some cosmic being by insulting it. No God of love would ever punish people for any of the things Christians claims he punishes people for (such as not believing the mythical stories surrounding him or idly insulting him when you didn't even believe he exists). Further, the immediate appeal to fear is highly suspicious. Humans use fear to control other humans all the time, but now we're supposed to believe that God does? Why spell his name "God" when you could just as easily call him Zeus?

makebate dags

Life seems full of test, don't it? I think to proclaim something is to proclaim the thing you are claiming... like; "I'm an Atheist!"

Also; for the visiting religious "Fuck God" seems to me like it'd come off as fuck everything you stand for (here) or could be interpreted as why yell or scream at something you 'say' you don't believe in? So I'd think the fuck god part is not just for non-believers but in a moment of desperation I'd think many christians or believers have cursed God; I'm quite sure of it. So by that reasoning "Fuck God" doesn't say much one way or the other if believers can curse god on a regular basis and remain believers.

There was something about in christianity of some holy spirit related unpardonable sin or something. I forget what it was about however.

Far as things that would be 'burning bridges' with religion I'd think might be more like telling people your an atheist, for things with more bravado or done just as a fuck you to religion; like those with an axe to grind or whatever for all lost (donated) time/money/etcetera... I'd think burning some type of holy book or something might be more symbolic of that. Wearing t-shirts that present anti-religious sentiments... it boggles my mind how people really take t-shirt messages/bumper stickers and such as seriously as they do, but it seems to me that people do. A t-shirt could get you knocked the fuck out I suppose?! A Fuck God t-shirt? Well anyways, whatever.

note: these SlipKnot lyrics came to mind when I first read this thread here;

Fuck it all, fuck this world, fuck everything that you stand for,
Don't belong, don't exist,
Don't give a shit, don't ever judge me.

note2: on the Fuck God t-shirt thing brings to mind this Bill Hicks bit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3zgblmCAO0

ie; if christians or religious are all those things religions like to suggest
then why'd anyone fear being public with anything irreligious hmm....

spamandham

Yeah! Another 'fuck god' opportunity.

Fuck God. Fuck Lucky the Leprechaun while we're at it too. That asshole can eat his own "lucky charms".

Robin Z

Hey, why should I have to do it? God's supposed to be omnipotent, isn't he? Let him go fuck himself. :huh:

I know you may not have expected it, dalehileman, but we really do find the idea that God exists that absurd. If a total stranger offered to sell you an immortality potion for ten thousand dollars, would you buy it? Nor would we, whether that potion be a glass of water or a pew at a church.

bopot

I take it this is supposed to serve as a test of one's sensitivity to "blasphemy."

Some of my earliest notions of being an unbeliever came from the fact that blasphemy never bothered me. That is, when other kids would hear someone say "God damn," some would bug their eyes out and tell that person to hush, as though something truly horrible had happened. But I never understood what the problem was. And on the few occasions I went through the motions of praying, I felt utterly ridiculous and even embarrassed.

Even as a kid, I knew the whole thing was absurd.

Oh yeah: fuck God.

Angra Mainyu

I'm not sure what the point is, but then, there seems to be no rule against insulting imaginary beings.

I suppose it could be seen as hostile by some theists, so it wouldn't be the most effective way to have a civil debate, but given that in this case, it's just a reply to a specific request, I see no problem in that regard.

So, fuck God.

What's the big deal?
Side note: I find it hard to understand why some theists express doubt that atheists are actually atheists.

Chemist99a

Medic! is more likely. That or Morphine (or an equivalent). Even atheists seem to harbor a latent belief in Morpheus.

Atheos

Why not put the shoe on the other foot? How deep does the piousness of most "theists" run? Are they literally willing to stake their life on the belief that they have an immortal soul and that their god is going to reward them with a blissful eternity?

Would you kill your son if you believed your god expected you to do it?

How much do you really believe in this alleged god and associated afterlife? If it weren't so convenient as to simply invest an hour a week and toss some cash into a collection plate would you do it?

If it's true that each human being has an immortal soul that will either enjoy an eternity in paradise or be unimaginably tormented forever then this life means absolutely nothing. Do you actually believe that? Then why do you waste time working at a job, watching television, reading books, farting around on the Internet or enjoying a nice meal at a nice restaraunt?

Have you ever wasted an hour of time you could be saving souls and instead enjoyed just having sex with someone?

Have you ever wasted a few hours of time you could be saving souls and just sat around with some friends playing cards? Going shopping? Watching a play? Practicing playing a musical instrument? Such wastes of precious time!

Shouldn't you be spending every precious moment of this paltry speck of existence trying to save people from the fire? Isn't it the least bit callous for someone to blissfully ignore the imminent danger everyone around them is in and go on dabbling in the leisurely pleasures available in this life?

You could be eating wild locusts and honey, dressing in discarded clothing and sleeping whereever god decided in his wisdom to give you shelter, all the while spending every last modicum of effort your human body has to try to convince others of the reality of hell, the danger they're in and the desperate need they have to accept salvation.

But that would be too much trouble, wouldn't it? It's hard to really believe that nearly everyone around you is going to be gnashing their teeth, screaming at the top of their lungs and wishing desperately for all eternity they could escape the dread torment they are enduring.

No, you sleep quite well at night, content to ignore the implications of your religion. You don't lie awake contemplating the torment your relatives and/or friends who've already died without getting saved may already be enduring. You live each day and go peacefully to bed each night just fine -- just the same as you would if you knew for sure that there is no hell waiting to punish those who "know not god and obey not the gospel".

How convenient that christianity sells for about the price the vast majority of people are willing to pay for it: Just a nod of the head, a statement of belief, a pittance of money and just enough time each week to sit in a pew and receive a regular brainwashing. The "baby bear porridge" of immortality scams -- juuuuuust right.