Agnostic Theist

www.shiachat.com

I am on there trying to explain that the Quran is not perfect, and some other stuff

It is like explaining sight to a blind man

Could anyone please support me?

Oh, and for those that go to forums.shiasource.com, can you tell me, did the muslims refute all of your arguments? According to Yasser they did.

Believe me you wanjt to have a go at these guys. They have shoved so much straw into my mouth the soles of my feet are growing blonde whiskers! There ios nobody to stop them!!!


BTW, if this belongs in another thread please move it and let me know where it went, cheers.

lpetrich

Here are some resources:

The Skeptic's Annotated Koran
The Freethought Mecca
The Origin of the Koran (at the Secular Islam site)

You may also want to check out these two sites:
Answering Islam
Answering Christianity

Agnostic Theist

I tried the answering islam one at shaiforums.

'It's a lie, it'sssssss a lie.' They moaned

BUT

They used answering christianity!

River

Don't worry I will support you....You will find me as "River" in shiachat.com


---River

I look forward to seeing you soon.

River

" answering-Christianity" is a pretty weak website in my opinion. It has some good articles....but in the end its more emotional than logical.

However, the Muslims should be using "www.islamic-awarness.org". This website is hard to defeat.

Agnostic Beast, perhaps you should read/familiarize yourself with

www.islamic-awareness.org

If you want to fight the "enemy" you have to use their weapon against

them. ITS THE ONLY WAY


---best of wishes
River

Agnostic Theist

Right now I'm just dropping little snippets in random places.


There's is one lad who started an entire thread based on a strawman.

I asserted that Jesus was just a dude, a mortal (which is why he died while God is supposedly immortal) and that Christ was the spirit, or godhood within him.

I then find this thread that claims I made the assertion there are 4 components of the trinity, and that God is just a 'dude'


See, River, that's the sort of stuff you might come up against....

River

bro, you got to speak to their level ( so that they may understand you).

tell them that Jesus (pbuh) was a human who came on earth as the man " Emmanuel". Christ is the Messiah/Mashiach/Masih (to anoint, to rub oil as ..a king), the Word of G-d [logos] and Spirit of G-d. Don't tell them that Christ was a Spirit ( they'll think that he is some kind of a Ghost) ...tell them instead, that Jesus was the Spirit of G-d...then they will understand...and don't bother telling them that about the Trinity because...then they will counter it by saying either 1+1+1= 3 ....or they will say something like "there is no such thing as "Trinity " in the Hebrew lexicon.

You must make things easy for them...so they can see the light....remember Jesus Christ was "sinless" and he is the Messiah. I really recommend that you study the website www.islamic-awareness.org ,thorougly ...It will help you figure out holes in their logic...


best of wishes
River

Agnostic Theist

After countless arguments of

Why are you agnostic?

Why not?

You must be blind or psychotic (thanks!). There's obviously a God

Prove it

Where do yuo think the world comes from?

What's that got to do with anything?

Welll....did your computer create itself (oh for fuck sake!)

What the hell does that matter?!

:banghead:

And a load of other shit, viz. we don't mean to insult you but as a non-muslim we think you're clearly psychotic, I decided to simplify, really simplify

Look, the Quran is bull.

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