aa5874

I was just pondering over the death of Jesus, according to the NT, and it appears to me that the death of Jesus, as described, would not have been recorded officially as a death, if records were kept.

So, according to the NT, Jesus was crucified and died, I would expect a death certificate to be issued, again if records were kept. Jesus is raised from the dead, the death certificate is cancelled, since Jesus is seen and confirmed to be alive.

Officially, there would be no documentation of the death of Jesus.

So, officially Jesus never died, he is missing.

Godless Dave

I doubt very much that either the Kingdom of Judah or the Roman Empire issued death certificates.

Doug Shaver

Why would you expect that?

ELECTROGOD

Well, there is your problem right there. You won't get much (if any) good information from such a bad source.
The more relevant question is "did Jesus truly ever live?"

the Radio Star

Upon seeing this thread's title, I thought you were going to ask how a divine being could possibly be killed.

aa5874

I would expect a death certicificate to be issued, if records were kept.

If you refer to my OP, you would see the words, if records were kept.

So, again, if records were kept, and Jesus was seen alive after his crucifixion, then officially he never died.

[b] There is a passage in 'The Life of Flavius Josephus' that highlights the problems caused by the removal of Jesus from the cross.

'The Life' by Josephus....."as I came back, I saw many captives crucified, and remembered three of them as my former acquaintance. I was very sorry with this in my mind, and went with tears in my eyes to Titus and told him of them; so he immediately commanded them to be taken down, and to have the greatest care taken of them, in order to their recovery; yet two of them died under the physicians hands while the third recovered.

If the story in 'The Life' is true, then a man was left to die on a cross, he was removed and he recovered after medical care, he never died as a result of the crucifixion.

Now if Jesus was left to die on a cross and he was removed, his body was never found in the tomb and was later was seen alive, he must have recovered, maybe after being under the care of a physician. He could not have died.

steamer

Hmm, let's see.

Supposing Jebus was born 2000 years ago and that we can comfortably say there are no 2000 year old men among us. Yep, if he was born then he is dead. What, in your mind, would make the death of any man born 2000 years ago need an "official" pronouncement?

aa5874

I consider the Jesus of the NT as being a myth. But, the story of Jesus' so-called death is not credible. It may be that Jesus was under the care of a physician and not at the tomb as is reported by his disciples.

aa5874

I am just trying to point out that Jesus, contrary to the belief of Christians, never died for their sins, since he was never seen dead at his tomb by his disciples.

steamer

I thought it was the author of John that decided Jesus died for the sins of men. Did Jesus even say that?

It always seemed to me that the Jesus in the story was there for the Jews and no one else. Someone else decided that the offer (if it existed) applied to gentiles as well.