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Old 07-25-2008, 09:22 PM   #171
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Don't forget that China is actually the oldest country in the world pretty much.
And Chinese food is awesome! but it's mostly cooked by Koreans [probably northern ones!]:huh: do I smell yet another atheist conspiracy going on?


I've met a whole lot of Russian girls over the last couple of summers and all of them are HOT! So much for that propaganda about them all being big fat ugly atheist babushkas! None of them are atheists either, though a few do act like Nazis. There are also girls from the Ukraine, Moldova, and that place were Barat is from [my advice, don't mention that]. All gorgeous hot looking babes!

About the only propaganda that's true about Russians is they like vodka, they drink it like water!

Oh yeah, and most of the dudes smell like b.o.. [and no I didn't get close to any of the Russkies to smell them, [pu!] you don't have to!]
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Borat from Kazakhstan.
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I've met a whole lot of Russian girls over the last couple of summers and all of them are HOT! So much for that propaganda about them all being big fat ugly atheist babushkas!
I thought the idea that all Russian girls are hot was a positive steriotype...but true, 85-90% of them look hot. From my experience, their religion usually seems to be Greek or Russian Orthodox.
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Probably hot Russian girls tend to leave Russia to make a living somewhere else.
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thenetian once again doesn't seem to know the facts. From his own link people, the peoples republic of china was established 1912, it was relocated to taiwan in 1949. Check thenetians link and look on the right side and you will see where thenetian forgot to actually do the research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China

- Republic established January 1, 1912
- Relocated to Taiwan December 7, 1949

here is more proof that thenetian just isn't looking at the facts.



thenetian seems to be too caught up in oppositional thinking to see the facts
Dr lazer blast seems to be too caught up in his obfuscations to notice that my link actually points to the wikipage on the People's Republic of China which he claimed Sir Reginald Fleming Johnston was a minister of.

So now I take it that you're claiming he was a minister of the Republic of China, instead? Kindly provide evidence for that assertion if so. Also provide evidence that he was a communist and that he was responsible for genocide.

You have still not answered the questions I bolded previously. Are you ever going to do it, I wonder?
Now thenetian attempts to ignore his totally obvious ignorance of historical facts and shift the focus away from his incorrect blatently wrong assertions by setting up strawmen arguments claiming that I said fleming was a minister of the republic of china. I never said that whatsoever. I said he was part of the 'cabinet'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Johnston

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he was appointed Commissioner at Weihaiwei. He ran the territory until it was returned to the Republic of China on October 1, 1930.
then after the embarrassing factual inaccuracies he asserts he attempts to change the focus by commenting on some bolded questions that I never answered.

What thenetian does not realize is that does little to cover up the blatent factual errors he made and the following strawmen he set up in this post, and the fact that I haven't answered them is not evidence of anything.
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By the "local church" I meant the church or Rwanda in it's entirety, of course.. As usual, you deliberately misrepresent what people write.

You're not getting the point, as usual. The protestations of those priests are the protestations of those who stand accused of mass murder. They are laughable, and worthless as proof of innocence. They try to put the blame for the genocide on the tutsis themselves, man! Then they want to go home with the rest of the Hutus and "have a referendum" about their fate. Considering that the Hutus were now an even bigger majority of the population, I can see why they thought that would be nice, but it was an utterly ridiculous suggestion. Should Germany have been allowed to hold a referendum on the fate of their leaders after WW2?
now thenetian is flailing and makes some critical errors in his rebuttal. There were some 'local churches' that were involved in the murders, but there were also local churches that tried to help, so that hardly constitutes the church of rwanda in its entirety considering some of the churches tried to help.

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Where did you get the idea that his only sources were the churches themselves? This is an official report to the United Nations and that is how he formulates it. What you are looking at is his conclusion; the catholic church was the only organization involved in all stages of the genocide.
another error this time in the form of a strawman logical fallacy. I said his source of evidence was a group of clergymen participating in the murders, which is hardly evidence of an entire church backing.
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Oh non, you are not "leaving" us. You are going to be meeting me in a different thread as soon as you are done with your other "debate". No matter how long it takes you to be prepared and equipped.
It won't take doc.lb long, he ain't one to be known to stall when it comes to "debating"
he's a grab it by the short&curlies and howl kinda dude... AHROOOOOOO!

I wonder if the doc would like to take mine and his debate on whether science is a greater threat to humanity and impedes itself more than religion does, since it means so much to him, to rants&raves or Talk Rational since we both blew it on here, how about it doc? Wanna try another website kinda sorta like this one?
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Anyone else notice how dlb has conveniently chosen to retreat from the other thread concerning his so-called "atheist suicide bombers"?
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Dr lazer blast seems to be too caught up in his obfuscations to notice that my link actually points to the wikipage on the People's Republic of China which he claimed Sir Reginald Fleming Johnston was a minister of.

So now I take it that you're claiming he was a minister of the Republic of China, instead? Kindly provide evidence for that assertion if so. Also provide evidence that he was a communist and that he was responsible for genocide.

You have still not answered the questions I bolded previously. Are you ever going to do it, I wonder?
Now thenetian attempts to ignore his totally obvious ignorance of historical facts and shift the focus away from his incorrect blatently wrong assertions by setting up strawmen arguments claiming that I said fleming was a minister of the republic of china. I never said that whatsoever. I said he was part of the 'cabinet'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Johnston

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he was appointed Commissioner at Weihaiwei. He ran the territory until it was returned to the Republic of China on October 1, 1930.
then after the embarrassing factual inaccuracies he asserts he attempts to change the focus by commenting on some bolded questions that I never answered.

What thenetian does not realize is that does little to cover up the blatent factual errors he made and the following strawmen he set up in this post, and the fact that I haven't answered them is not evidence of anything.
You first claimed that he was in the cabinet in the People's Republic of China, which was established by Mao's CPC in 1949. The just plain Republic of China was set up in 1912 by Sun at Sen, and Chiang Kai Shek evacuated its government to Taiwan in 1949. Two different entities. Then you blame someone else for your mistake.

And on the wiki page you linked to, the very next sentence after the one you quote:
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The dignity of Johnston's official departure — the first such by a British administrator from a British possession in China... ...
So he wasn't in any Chinese cabinet at all, according to your link, he was a British colonial administrator.
Yet more evidence that you don't actually know much of what you're on about.

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Borat from Kazakhstan.
yeah, i meant borat kazakhstan used to be part of the soviet union didn't it?
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I've met a whole lot of Russian girls over the last couple of summers and all of them are HOT! So much for that propaganda about them all being big fat ugly atheist babushkas!
I thought the idea that all Russian girls are hot was a positive steriotype...but true, 85-90% of them look hot. From my experience, their religion usually seems to be Greek or Russian Orthodox.
It is positive now, but back in the sixties, seventies and eighties [before that was before my time] US propaganda said they were all fat ugly atheists, and like you observed they are mostly Greek or Russian Orthodox, I told one [actually the second most hot Russian chick] that I don't believe that Jesus was God and boy did she hit the roof! I blew any chance of scoring with her no matter what I tried.

So a word of warning to anybody wanting to score with any lady from the former Soviet Union, don't mention atheism, period. I'm not saying lie to them just don't tell them, it's best to just let them talk anyway, they sound so cute with their accents, [another bit of advice, no matter how bad they sound say they speak English very well] GRRRRR-OWL!


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Probably hot Russian girls tend to leave Russia to make a living somewhere else.
They work hard, too. The only bad thing is they expect everyone else to work hard for just about nothing.
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