tek

I cant argue with all you, I know the truth I hope God will show it to you,
Your argument is you make your own facts to disprove the real facts, and theres no winning with that.
Its like blind man leading the blind and falling to a ditch

And about who created God the bible explains that, God is alpha and omega first and last.

And about me saying that we have eyes to see, feet to walk, mouth to speak because of God.
I mean to say that an all knowing intelligent being had to create all that, because, all our organs had to be created some thinking all knowing supernatural being ( God ) had to put everything in place in our bodies to make us functional, to make us live and breath, it all had to be created.

If you look at people theres no way you can say that they were created by accident, i mean thats too many chances, ears / hear, mouth /speak/ eat, feet/walk/run/, eyes / see, nose/smell. its obvious some intelligent being put everything in place, and im just discussing humans, there are billions and billions of things that had to come by God.

Eitherwise you have to believe that it was made by some accident. billions and billions of coincidences

oops human beings received eyes to see, and feet to walk.

An intelligent being had to think that eyes will make the person see, and feet would make them walk and then put it to place explaining how it was made.

Evolution saying that we evolved from monkeys.
There is no PROOF that that evolution ever happened its a theory, men cannot explain the world and all its creation so men try to think they know it all and create scientific garbage to try to explain all, its like people in darkness who think they are in light.

Shpongle

This thread makes baby jesus cry.

NottyImp

So much ignorance in so little space. It's sad that people can be so devoid of simple reasoning skills.

variant 13

Just take your time.

But your arguement rests on something had to create the universe, then you say that god doesn't need to be created. Special pleading.

Not by accident, by evolution.

Yes it's a theory, meanig there is evidence that it works.

There is no proof of god/s.

No, I think it's more like we're looks for the exit or trying to make a light.
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I think it would help if you told us what you know about evolution.

Kevin

tek, I feel a bit sorry for you. It's easy to feel that you've gotten in over your head, and in this case you have. We have a wide variety of posters who, not ignoring the intelligent laymen, represent a wide swath of all the sciences relevant to evolution, including paleontology, botany, population genetics, molecular biology, developmental biology, paleoanthropology, etc. Posts like yours, I'm afraid, seem like trifles, and, had you been a tad less confrontational, people wouldn't be letting you have it with both barrels. However, you're only doing what you think will glorify God and bring people to him. Understandable, but I'm afraid your background (presumably in a young earth creationist church) has not equipped you for making a good case to us. It's not your fault, though, so I'm going to try to explain as simply as possible what you need to understand about evolution. I hope you'll have the patience for what promises to be a few long posts.

I'm posting this, without posting any of the upcoming information with it, because I want you to see this message first. I hope you stick around long enough to see this series of posts. There should certainly be at least some of it up within the next six hours.

I'm thinking of including it in a new thread, since this one doesn't encompass an explanation of evolution, but is rather based merely on fielding your questions and objections to evolution.

Shadowy Man

One big argument from incredulity.

Does it always come back to this?

pz

I would add that we really frown on unresponsive post-and-run preaching, which seems to be all Tek is doing right now. I recommend focussing on specifics, asking questions, and avoiding the "because the bible told me so" approach, which atheists will generally find unconvincing, if not incredibly vapid.

There's nothing really offensive in what Tek is saying, but it is intellectually empty. If he can't wise up, I may have to start casting his threads into the depths of ~Elsewhere~.

Steve_F

Can this complete tit just not be ignored?

scombrid

What of animals that have eyes and do not see nor need to see because they live in darkness?

What of the myriad of animals with mouths that do not speak?

What of the animals that smell with something other than a nose?

What of animals that hear by some means other than ears or sense light by some means other than eyes?



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Autonemesis

If the Earth were closer to the Sun, enough to have significantly changed the climate, it is likely we would not have evolved at all, and so there'd be nobody to burn to death.

However, if the Earth suddenly moved closer to the Sun and burned us all to death, I might consider that event to be adequate proof of the existence of a malevolent god like the one depicted in the Bible.

Now you know what to pray for.

You too.

Domo origato mister roboto. Why should I care what god wants, assuming it exists? Will it punish me if I believe incorrectly? If so, then what your god wants is slaves, not robots.