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Old 12-07-2009, 03:10 PM   #211
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You continuously ignore information found in the NT about Jesus.

This is the so-called Jesus in John 10.30


John 17.5

And according to the author of John 1, the Word was God, and the Word became flesh.
according to according to according to... do you believe everything you read?
"According to" does not imply belief. "According to" simply denotes "source".

Now, according to information found in the NT and Church writings, the HJ is a most SENSELESS proposition.
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The HJ is a most SENSELESS proposition.

Examine the NON-HISTORICAL information about Jesus provided in the NT and Church writings.

NON-HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS

1. The conception of Jesus through the Holy Ghost and the Virgin Mary.

2. The temptation of Jesus by the Devil for 40 days and nights.

3. The miracles where Jesus healed people BORN blind, deaf, and dumb.

4. The walking on water by Jesus during a storm at sea.

5. The raising of Lazarus by Jesus who had began to stink after 4 days dead.

6. The transfiguration with the once dead Moses and Elijah.

7. The crucifixion of Jesus using false witnesses and exonerated by Pilate.

8. The resurrection of Jesus after the third day of death.

9. The ascension of Jesus through the clouds.

10. The deification of a dead Jew in Judea and asking him to forgive sins.


Now examine the HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS OF Jesus.

HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS

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2.---------------------------

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The HJ is a most SENSELESS proposition.
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The HJ is a most SENSELESS proposition.

Examine the NON-HISTORICAL information about Jesus provided in the NT and Church writings.

NON-HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS

1. The conception of Jesus through the Holy Ghost and the Virgin Mary.

2. The temptation of Jesus by the Devil for 40 days and nights.

3. The miracles where Jesus healed people BORN blind, deaf, and dumb.

4. The walking on water by Jesus during a storm at sea.

5. The raising of Lazarus by Jesus who had began to stink after 4 days dead.

6. The transfiguration with the once dead Moses and Elijah.

7. The crucifixion of Jesus using false witnesses and exonerated by Pilate.

8. The resurrection of Jesus after the third day of death.

9. The ascension of Jesus through the clouds.

10. The deification of a dead Jew in Judea and asking him to forgive sins.


Now examine the HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS OF Jesus.

HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS

1.---------------------------

2.---------------------------

3.--------------------------

4.--------------------------

5.-------------------------

6.------------------------

7.------------------------

8.-----------------------

9.----------------------

10.---------------------


The HJ is a most SENSELESS proposition.

I have to ask the same question put forth by "Little John". Why, after all these years have the Jews not denied Jesus the Jew as being a man among them?

Have the Jews declared that Gentiles invented this story all on their own? What has come out of the Rabbi's mouths concerning this Jesus?
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Do yo have historical evidence of the existence, life and times of your maternal great great great great grandfather? (That would be only 6 generations back instead of 60.)
A birth certificate (which wasn't available for people in Jesus' time), anything he wrote or made, a third person account of his life (contemporaneously written of course), or anything at all... or is he a most senseless proposition as well?
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Do yo have historical evidence of the existence, life and times of your maternal great great great great grandfather? (That would be only 6 generations back instead of 60.)
A birth certificate (which wasn't available for people in Jesus' time), anything he wrote or made, a third person account of his life (contemporaneously written of course), or anything at all... or is he a most senseless proposition as well?
Are you implying that Jesus, the offspring of the Holy Ghost of God, was your maternal great great...............grandfather?

Now, what about Romulus and Achilles? They may be your relatives.


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YOU are a most senseless proposition.
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The HJ is a most SENSELESS proposition.
YOU are a most senseless proposition.
Your response appears pathetic, but expected. You seem not to be able to deal with the OP that the HJ is a most SENSELESS proposition.

Below, you will see a list from conception to the ascension of Jesus showing that he was fundamentally NON-HISTORIC. or FICTIONAL.


I have left 10 blank spaces for HISTORICAL accounts



NON-HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS

1. The conception of Jesus through the Holy Ghost and the Virgin Mary.

2. The temptation of Jesus by the Devil for 40 days and nights.

3. The miracles where Jesus healed people BORN blind, deaf, and dumb.

4. The walking on water by Jesus during a storm at sea.

5. The raising of Lazarus by Jesus who had began to stink after 4 days dead.

6. The transfiguration with the once dead Moses and Elijah.

7. The crucifixion of Jesus using false witnesses and exonerated by Pilate.

8. The resurrection of Jesus after the third day of death.

9. The ascension of Jesus through the clouds.

10. The deification of a dead Jew in Judea and asking him to forgive sins.


Please fill in the blanks or else the HJ will remain a most SENSELESS proposition.

HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS

1.---------------------------

2.---------------------------

3.--------------------------

4.--------------------------

5.-------------------------

6.------------------------

7.------------------------

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YOU are a most senseless proposition.
you keep repeating yourself... have you nothing substantial to add? :deadhorse:
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you keep repeating yourself... have you nothing substantial to add? :deadhorse:
I must repeat this so that you can't claim you did not see it.

Please fill in the blanks or else the HJ will remain a most SENSELESS proposition.

HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS

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The only reason I haven't closed this thread is that I figured it would be a place for aa5874 to express himself and keep his repetition out of other threads.

But I am reconsidering. Is there a reason for this thread to go on?
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