jgibson000

O geeze Louise, Earl.

What a load of self righteous cant.

If you have been "brainwashed into believing" what you say about me and Greek, it's of your own doing, and not because of anything I've ever said about my Greek capabilities or credentials.

To my knowledge, and quite unlike some you mention, I have never claimed to be "never wrong" on things Greek. And I have never put forward the idea that my Greek is "inferior to none" or that I am incapable of making mistakes about Greek.

And unlike some you have mentioned, I have never in any argument about Greek that I have engaged in here, referred in any way to, or used, my credentials, let alone, as some you mentioned have most certainly done, paraded them or ventured to (mis)use or appeal to them as a trump card -- as that which proves I am undoubtedly right and shows that I should not be questioned in anything I have said -- in any argument about Greek carried out here.

So I'd be grateful, Earl, that if you are going to excoriate me, you do so for things I actually have done, not for things I haven't.

As to my use of ARXONTAI for the nominative plural of ARXWN, it was indeed a mistake. I know better, and, believe it or not, I have shown myself as knowing better, as this message to IIDB demonstrates.

I'm not certain why I wrote otherwise. But it's not for the reason you claim. I do know that it had nothing to do with mixing up first and second declension noun endings, since I was not, as you seem to be, oblivious to, or unmindful of, the fact when I wrote what I wrote that ARXWN is a third declension noun.

So I'd be grateful if you'd spare us the third rate psychoanalysis and what appears to be an attempt at mind reading.

Really? I wonder why Malachi151 (sheesh) never wrote, after I noted what I noted to him, to say otherwise.

Well, you know what they say you do to yourself when you assume. And given how the M man had been using the term in messages prior to the one I responded to, is your assumption really the "most natural" (let alone the correct) one?

But the question about whether Malachi151 (sheesh) was indeed using "archons" in the message I responded to as a "transliteration" of the nominative plural of ARXWN can easily be settled. Ask him.

Assuming for the sake of argument that what I posted wasn't an important fact to note, and that it wasn't proper to note it, given the topic of discussion, I can only blame what I did on the fact that I was under the sway of your exemplary display of what it is to be human and was taking a leaf from your book.

Note to self: Be more careful about whom you chose to imitate.

JG

S.C.Carlson

There must be a law of the internet that those who correct minutiae in others' posts are condemned to include their own typos. Notwithstanding the somewhat Cyrillic feel to this transliteration, there is no "N" (or "nu") in προφητης (PROFHTHS) or προφηται (PROFHTAI).

The law-abiding Stehpen

jgibson000

Nor, as Earl seems to think given his transliteration of προφητης (PROFHTHS) and προφηται (PROFHTAI) as PROPHNTNS and PROPHNTAI respectively, is there a second P (or "pi") in those words.

Jeffrey

JoeWallack

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...75853&s=143441

jgibson000

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...72#post4006772

JG

Amaleq13

The discussion of transliteration schemes has been split out here.


Personal digressions have been sent Elsewhere

squiz

To get back to the original digression from the original discussion (ie. to whether archons is acceptable in English) I just thought I would google for a few other "pretentious plurals". I wonder which is acceptable and which barbaric: octopuses, octopi or octopodes? Campuses or campi? How should I pronounce restaurant in English? Should I use bonus or boni?

BTW. Not many people know it, but the original pronunciation of Van Gogh in his home town dialect is "Van Wheef". I suggest we all say it like that from now on.

Steven Avery

Yes. When will the genii here develop criterion for making sound word-form diagnoses so we can properly handle each bit of unusual plural datum ? We desperately need formulae to work with, valid conceptual basises so the forum can achieve usage consensuses. However, in doing so, lets be careful not to put the oxes before the octopi.

youngalexander

Amenses