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Toto · 01-16-2010, 11:03 AM

I dont recognize what you cite as a quote from me.

The Serapis-Christian-Hadrian connection was examined in this previous thread:

The Mithras ~ Chrestos ~ Vatican connection split from Non-Jesus people, & Serapis. See post 27 for the full quote and further posts for discussion.

See also this from Andrew Criddle:

Quote:

This is from one of the more 'creative' parts of that very imaginative work the 'Augustan Histories'.

It is unlikely that it represents anything Hadrian ever wrote.

Given the probable date of the 'Augustan Histories' in the late 4th century CE, it may well be a piece of pagan satire against the new official religion.

Andrew Criddle

In short, that alleged quote from Hadrian is not a reliable indication anything much, and is usually misquoted.

spin · 01-16-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyro

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Originally Posted by Dave31

I have read that Justin Martyr uses the term "Chrestiani" exclusively in the original texts.

that seems to be a myth spread by blavatsky and others. perhaps it refers to the pun in First Apology 4 (which blavatsky refers to). everywhere here the christians are called christians, and not chrestians. justin says the christians are 'excellent', χρηστότατοι, and uses the word χρηστὸν, but not as the name of the christians... "Χριστιανοὶ γὰρ εἶναι κατηγορούμεθα· τὸ δὲ χρηστὸν μισεῖσθαι οὐ δίκαιον." - "For we are accused of being Christians, and to hate what is excellent (Chrestian) is unjust."

That should be "Chrestos". Where's the first example of chrestianos?

spin

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