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Old 12-01-2005, 04:46 PM   #51
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How can you call yourself a FREETHINKER?

Kindly lookup the meaning of the word.
"An orthodox believer in any faith, for example, may be a freethinker if he or she has come to accept those beliefs on the basis of reason, if they question and/or reject one or more articles of their religion's doctrines, or if they have rejected alternative beliefs on the basis of free and rational thought in accordance with reason."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethinker

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"An orthodox believer in any faith, for example, may be a freethinker if he or she has come to accept those beliefs on the basis of reason, if they question and/or reject one or more articles of their religion's doctrines, or if they have rejected alternative beliefs on the basis of free and rational thought in accordance with reason."
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Are there any orthodox teachings that you disagree with, or at least question?
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The name of the Church is the Orthodox Church.
Well then, it's settled.

Hey, does anyone know what government office deals with name changes? Or, wait, you do it in front of a judge, right? I gotta find out, I want to change my name to Supreme Dictator of Earth, ASAP.
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Orthodoxy began in 52 A.D., when the Apostles receieved the blessing of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. It has remained unchanged and uncorrupted from that time. Every other Christian denomination is nothing more than an off-shoot of Orthodoxy.
Well I say that Romanism began in 29 A.D., when Jesus gave Peter the keys to the gates of Heaven. It has remained unchanged and uncorrupted from that time. Every other Christian denomination is nothing more than an off-shoot of Romanism.

Do you have anything whatsoever to prove your statement truer than mine? You can't just keep repeating it. And kindly DON'T point me to that graph again, thanks.
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Are there any orthodox teachings that you disagree with, or at least question?
I don't believe that homosexuals go to hell just for being gay.
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Do you have anything whatsoever to prove your statement truer than mine?
Yes. While the Roman Catholic Church has almost frequently 'updated' itself, Orthodoxy has remained more or less unchanged from the beginning of the faith. Therefore, we have preserved Apostolic practice, belief and doctrine.
Furthermore, Petrine supremacy is a Roman doctrine which evolved over time. Though Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom, he was not a 'pope' as we understand one today.

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Early Historical Documents on Jesus Christ
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08375a.htm
Second hand, all many years after the alleged life of Jesus. And probably nothing more than repeating what they had been told by the Christian cult.

As usual, not contemptoraries of Jesus. That's quite a stretch to use the phrase "of the time".
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Second hand, all many years after the alleged life of Jesus. And probably nothing more than repeating what they had been told by the Christian cult.
Josephus was a contemporary of Christ and most scholars would agree that he at least mentioned that Jesus was a historical person.
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Josephus was a contemporary of Christ and most scholars would agree that he at least mentioned that Jesus was a historical person.
Josephus was born in 36 A.D., 3 years after the alleged crucificution. He wrote "the jewish wars" in the 90s, IIRC. Not quite contemporary. Plenty
of time for the mythmaking to get going before he was even able to write...
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Josephus was a contemporary of Christ and most scholars would agree that he at least mentioned that Jesus was a historical person.
Wrong on the first count.

Second count? Most scholars would agree that the Josephus mention of Christ is, at least in part, a much later interpolation.

Some scholars insist it's entirely interpolated.

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