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Baidarka · 05-23-2004, 08:05 PM

Mr. Beanie
You have rendered your argument meaningless . By your definition we are all black.
Your Bro
Baidarka

PS-Power to the people right on!

Baidarka · 05-23-2004, 08:19 PM

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the cold. Is he Puerto Rican or is he Inuit?

I do not know.
What do you mean you don't know? Which is dominant Inuit or Puerto Rican? You seem to be an expert on racial classifications how is it that you can't answer a simple question?

OK let's try these
50% Native American + 50% Japanese =?
50% Tutsi + 50% Hutoo= ?
50% Pigmy + 50% Massai = ?

TheBigKahoona · 05-23-2004, 08:32 PM

"How have you arrived at THIS hypothesis?"

There is no evidence to suggest he was any other race than that of the jews of the time.

Sheshbazzar · 05-23-2004, 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=beanpie]50% White + 50% Black =?
75% White + 25% Black = ?
87.5% White + 12.5% Black = ?
93.75% White + 6.25% Black = ?
96.875% White + 3.125% Black = ?
all would be Black. What do YOU think?

99.9999% White + .0001% Black= ?

Respectfully, Sheshbazzar

Nostalgic Pushhead · 05-23-2004, 10:07 PM

87.5% White + 12.5% Black = 87.5% White + 12.5% Black

Not to anwer the obvious rhetorical question.
But that fact pretty much pinpoints why race classifications are useless. You don't know the %'s that make up ANYONE's ethnicity, so its IMPOSSIBLE to tell their "race".

beanpie · 05-24-2004, 09:52 AM

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What do you mean you don't know?

I can onlt tell you if a person is" Black".

beanpie · 05-24-2004, 09:58 AM

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unlike Elijah Mohammed he was really a Black Man.

how is this true?

CHANGED THE WORLD?

beanpie · 05-24-2004, 10:05 AM

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By your definition we are all black.

this is true BUT, Caucasians are the FURTHEST removed.

beanpie · 05-24-2004, 10:14 AM

" For 400 years, we have served you with our labor, sweat and blood, the lash of your whip, your killings, lynching and burning of our innocent Black flesh, without even a hearing in a court of justice, nor even our murderers being punished. Although we are marched before your enemies, and there we pour out our lives for the freedom of your lives, children and your country, we return home to meet an even worse enemy. We are hated and kicked out in certain places like an "unwanted dog" who has caught the game but was not given a taste of it (only that which the hunter could not and should not eat himself). The dog, being too ignorant to recognize the injustice done to him by his master, will jump to his feet again at the call of his master to offer his life for his master’s life. This we have and still are doing for you.

We are not wanted in your better neighborhoods. In many places we have to be guarded and protected by your armed forces in order to live in a house which one of your kind has sold to us. Yet, we are the most peaceful and humblest of the population. We are taxed equally and perhaps more than those of our own kind who are the real citizens and owners of this country, America, though our labor and the labor of our fathers made and built it for you.

Think it over - millions of us working, fighting and dying at your hand and others for four hundred years without a home which we can call our own - not being allowed to worship our God, religion, nor have unity among self and our kind without being charged with the worst of crimes: subversiveness, sedition, treason and seeking to overthrow the government by force (though we have no arms to do such) just to have and excuse for your persecuting and seeking to kill the same poor four hundred year old slave."

beanpie · 05-24-2004, 11:23 AM

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So we have come here today to dramatize an appalling condition. In a sense we have come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir.

this is an excert of the
"I Have A Dream" speech. Mr. King was VERY incorrect...

In the Constitution of America, it is actually stated that Africans are 3/5's of a man!

So,"All men are created equal", did not apply to everyone!!!

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05-23-2004, 08:05 PM	#71
Baidarka Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 590	Mr. Beanie You have rendered your argument meaningless . By your definition we are all black. Your Bro Baidarka PS-Power to the people right on!

05-23-2004, 08:19 PM	#72
Baidarka Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 590	Quote: the cold. Is he Puerto Rican or is he Inuit? I do not know. What do you mean you don't know? Which is dominant Inuit or Puerto Rican? You seem to be an expert on racial classifications how is it that you can't answer a simple question? OK let's try these 50% Native American + 50% Japanese =? 50% Tutsi + 50% Hutoo= ? 50% Pigmy + 50% Massai = ?

05-23-2004, 08:32 PM	#73
TheBigKahoona Regular Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 171	"How have you arrived at THIS hypothesis?" There is no evidence to suggest he was any other race than that of the jews of the time.

05-23-2004, 08:34 PM	#74
Sheshbazzar Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: On the path of knowledge Posts: 8,889	[QUOTE=beanpie]50% White + 50% Black =? 75% White + 25% Black = ? 87.5% White + 12.5% Black = ? 93.75% White + 6.25% Black = ? 96.875% White + 3.125% Black = ? all would be Black. What do YOU think? 99.9999% White + .0001% Black= ? Respectfully, Sheshbazzar

05-23-2004, 10:07 PM	#75
Nostalgic Pushhead Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So. Burlington, Vermont Posts: 4,315	87.5% White + 12.5% Black = 87.5% White + 12.5% Black Not to anwer the obvious rhetorical question. But that fact pretty much pinpoints why race classifications are useless. You don't know the %'s that make up ANYONE's ethnicity, so its IMPOSSIBLE to tell their "race".

05-24-2004, 10:14 AM	#79
beanpie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: voston Posts: 699	" For 400 years, we have served you with our labor, sweat and blood, the lash of your whip, your killings, lynching and burning of our innocent Black flesh, without even a hearing in a court of justice, nor even our murderers being punished. Although we are marched before your enemies, and there we pour out our lives for the freedom of your lives, children and your country, we return home to meet an even worse enemy. We are hated and kicked out in certain places like an "unwanted dog" who has caught the game but was not given a taste of it (only that which the hunter could not and should not eat himself). The dog, being too ignorant to recognize the injustice done to him by his master, will jump to his feet again at the call of his master to offer his life for his master’s life. This we have and still are doing for you. We are not wanted in your better neighborhoods. In many places we have to be guarded and protected by your armed forces in order to live in a house which one of your kind has sold to us. Yet, we are the most peaceful and humblest of the population. We are taxed equally and perhaps more than those of our own kind who are the real citizens and owners of this country, America, though our labor and the labor of our fathers made and built it for you. Think it over - millions of us working, fighting and dying at your hand and others for four hundred years without a home which we can call our own - not being allowed to worship our God, religion, nor have unity among self and our kind without being charged with the worst of crimes: subversiveness, sedition, treason and seeking to overthrow the government by force (though we have no arms to do such) just to have and excuse for your persecuting and seeking to kill the same poor four hundred year old slave."

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