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|  08-14-2009, 06:58 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  Are Christianity and Islam Abrahamic? Split fr Allah God of Islam- even more insane What makes you say that Islam and Christianity are 'Abrahamic'? They do not follow Hebrew laws, and have no biological connection with Abraham or Moses. Consider this: Europeans who begat christianity at no time followed any of the Hebrew laws - ever; not before they became christian or after. In fact they negated all laws which they did not want to follow, and added laws totally in contrast of the Hebrew bible. The pre-Islamic Arabs never followed the Abrahamic or Mosaic beliefs, and also have no biological connection with Abraham. The Arab race is 2,500 years old and Abraham lived 4000 years ago - there were no Arabs in that 1,500 year period, nor did they follow Abrahamic laws in that time. Both religions emerged thinking Israel was dead. They destroyed the Jewish homeland and proclaimed themselves owners of the land and religion. Both made demands and doctrines in total contradiction of the Hebrew bible and of their own doctrines, introducing chaos, insanity and mass murder wherever they went, and converting by force. There is nothing Abrahamic of both those religions. | 
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 The label is not intended as a reference either to any of their practices or to their genealogy. It is intended solely as a reference to the common object of their worship. | |
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|  08-15-2009, 04:01 PM | #4 | 
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			I'm pretty sure that the version of Ra my Akhnaten(sp?) was the first monotheist god... Also, what Doug said. | 
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|  08-15-2009, 06:25 PM | #5 | |
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 It is more powerful when one chooses to belief a premise when they are not biologically connected. That all humanity emerged generically from one family aside, both today's Arabs and Christians are NOT connected via a biological thread and are not descendents of Abraham. This relates to correct history. It is also clear that while both religions follow the Abrahamic belief by choice, as opposed to a genealogical thread, they do so with numerous contradictions in their beliefs within themselves, and of the Abrahamic belief followed for 2000 years before both these religions emerged - and both of them cannot be right. | |
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|  08-15-2009, 06:28 PM | #6 | 
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			First monotheistic 'pagan' deity, and this is commonplace throughout humanity's early history. The Abrahamic belief turned the page of history like no other, marking an epochal shift, akin to the Industrial Revolution.
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|  08-15-2009, 06:40 PM | #8 | |
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 Subsequently, all historical truth is over-turned, and this can lead to great crimes commited openly and in the face of the world. There is a reason why these three religions have resulted in chaos, insanity and the greatest mass murders in Geo-History. | |
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|  08-15-2009, 06:54 PM | #9 | 
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			Both are based on Judaism, so yes they are.
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|  08-15-2009, 07:00 PM | #10 | 
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