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Old 12-30-2005, 08:09 PM   #11
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Yes, in the same chapter that I quoted, in verse 3, Jesus said "And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?"
Why do you think his "coming" would mean a physical return to earth?
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I wasn't going to make any more posts in this thread, but since hundreds of millions of people died without ever having heard the Gospel message, why is it important that all of the nations, or people, in the world hear the Gospel message, or even than anyone ever heard the Gospel message?
Biblically it makes no sense. If people who never heard the gospel are not going to hell for sinning, then telling them about the gospel is extreme cruelty. If those who never heard the gospel go to hell, then the idea of a just god goes there too.

I think this is better explained by armchair psychology. A believer needs reinforcement of his beliefs but needs even more the reinforcement of the importance of those beliefs. The bible describes devout believers and aggressive disbelievers; there is no recipe for dealing with the uninterested, who are nonetheless the biggest problem. Active disbelief can be reinterpreted as a way of believing but denying it; passive disbelief can only be interpreted to mean that the guy really does not think that Christianity is true. (If I sided with Eric Berne, I would say that the believer-strong atheist relationship is Parent-Child in both directions, while believer-weak atheist is Child-Parent from the side of the believer, and that hurts.) Therefore believers felt the need to force everyone taking a stance wrt. the truth of Christianity, and this got coded into the canon.
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Matthew 24:14 says "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." The prediction has been fulfilled, but Jesus has not returned to earth. In addition, since hundreds of millions of people have died without ever having heard the Gospel message, how did the spreading of the Gospel message help those people?
Well you got so caught up in your skepticness you forgot the context, silly...
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Well you got so caught up in your skepticness you forgot the context, silly...
Just please tell us what good the Gospel message did for hundreds of millions of people who died without ever having heard it, and since they didn't hear it, why is it important that anyone ever heard it?
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