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Old 06-01-2012, 10:17 AM   #261
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I wonder what the choice was for this Joseph having been from the town of Ramah, known in the Book of Samuel. ("Har Ramatayim")

I also wonder how the author of GJohn (who seemed to know about the Sanhedrin not executing murderers) knew about Nakdimon ben Gurion above and beyond any other characters to introduce into the gospel story.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...4_0_14513.html
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11525-nicodemus

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Adam, why didn't you mention Joseph of Arimathea as another eyewitness, exactly as you did with Nicodemus (gk Nikodemos) ?
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Adam, why didn't you mention Joseph of Arimathea as another eyewitness, exactly as you did with Nicodemus (gk Nikodemos) ?
We would assume he was an eyewitness, but there is no evidence he wrote anything that has been preserved. My main thesis is that there were at least seven eyewitness written records to Jesus; in the Passion Narrative, the Johannine Discourses, Q, L (and thus far included in my Gospel According to the Atheists), the Signs Gospel, Ur-Marcus, and the Editor in gJohn. The first writings were by eyewitnesses right at the time, other layers of eyewitnesses added in what they themselves saw, later eyewitnesses recorded not just what they saw but also what they heard about, and the canonical gospels contain other information not from eyewitnesses.

We're at Post #262 in this thread, but still no substantive responses to my OP nor to the threads listed in the OP.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:19 AM   #263
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After countless hours and posts attempting to reason with Adam. I have decided to stop replying to his posts, and so giving him excuses to continue.
Others might do well to consider doing the same.
I'll continue to monitor his posts on the off-hand chance that he might eventually learn something and finally offer something more substantial than his 'assumptions' and that attendant multitude of unqualified assertions.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:00 PM   #264
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Apparently Shesh has upgraded his estimation of my work. He replied on
Why people can't give up on the historical Jesus at Post 136 (among others) on June 3.
That still leaves FRDB with no substantive reply to my OP or #243 or #246 here nor to anything else I have presented here in FRDB. You still have nowhere to point to where you or anyone else refutes me. Presumably Shesh would specify who had done that and where. Instead he continues with unfounded assertions. The case against me (yes, everyone here has made it personal rather than contesting the message) looks weaker and weaker with no one else arguing specifics. Broad attacks tend to be irrelevant even when not flat-out misdirected. Fewer and fewer who comment on me have read any of my stuff, because they simply rely on the authority of those who previously dismissed me. Of those who did read my posts, they believed that they had a priori grounds to reject me, but I put those a priori arguments aside when I present my Gospel According to the Atheists.
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There have been no personal attacks against you. There have been criticisms of your method which you have not met, except to claim that "experts agree."

Several people have told you that "Gospel According to the Atheists" is not a gospel and not approved by any atheist, but you have not made an adequate response.

It's time to give this up.
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:07 PM   #266
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Why? Because none of you can answer it? I guess I stick around here instead of being more productive elsewhere because I get constant reassurance that no one here can answer me.

I thought as Moderator you see all the posts? Or are there some members here you carefully avoid reading when they "answer" me? Even those who are polite seem to avoid reading my stuff, so their Argument from Authority is fundamentally aimed against me, not my argument.

What was wrong with my method in my thread
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, my peer-reviewed article serialized there as #1, #2, #13, #30, #45, #57, #59, #63, #77, and #80 and related links in #50 to my Noesis articles? I havn't found any source-criticism of gJohn that has caught up with it after these 30 years. No one responded to my challenge Jan. 21 in #85 that no one had presented any argument against me in my thread.

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So new challenge: my point from this thread is that source-criticism of the Gospel of John had a Golden Age in the 1970's from which new truths could be extracted. However, none of the major players could learn from one another, so no advances have been made in the last 30 years. None of you have been able to point to any book or scholar that undermines my thesis in Significance of John (nor my current seven eyewitness gospel records thesis in my Gospel Eyewitnesses thread). No one has gotten farther than saying you disagree. Ironically instead of citing scholars that debunk me, I've instead seen you (spin, that is) pointing out scholars that support me. Am I too far out ahead of everyone for anyone to recognize that this is the case? (After 30 years I think I have the right to ask that unthinkable question.)
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A theist in distress is not a pretty sight. Maybe god has other plans for you than converting us non believers..

Pslam 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Where is that good old timey Christian peace and comfort?

Matthew 7:1 Judge not that ye be not judged.

John 7:37 he that is without sin, cast the first stone

Words to live by. Keep those stones comming.

It is not whether JC lived or not. It is not about whether god exists or not. It is about how through your faith you try to live.

So endeth the sermon. Go in peace.
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"A theist in distress"?
When I'm the one still waiting for a substantive, relevant response from anyone here or elsewhere (like a book to refer me to)?
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"A theist in distress"?
When I'm the one still waiting for a substantive, relevant response from anyone here or elsewhere (like a book to refer me to)?
Unfortunately, yes.

You are begging for attention when you have nothing substantive to offer. You keep saying that your points haven't been addressed when they all have, and been dismissed.

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I have no interest in your particular topic, but once again I will give you some more advice. Link to previous advice that would have helped but you ignored.

You aren't the first apologist here to play the "I win because nobody is addressing my arguments like I want them to". In fact it is straight out of the play book of dozens of both professional and amateur apologists. Sticking around and whining about it just hurts your future credibility.

So here is what you do:

1. Go get your own website (a blog will do)

2. Start bloging about your endless genius

3. Point to these threads showing how nobody can defeat your profound apologetics.

4. Get on with your life
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