Gawen

Some examples of Christian Nazi Germany:

Berlin newspaper Lokal Anzeiger1 Oct. 1939: "God almighty is not only on the side of the strong battalions; He also helps the right side. He also helps us to destroy the effort of the English Jews and their comrades to win by a Hunger Blockade. The German farmer has assured us bread and milk...God Almighty was with our soldiers (in Poland); God Almighty was with our farmers. Let us all be with God Almighty."

6 Oct. 1939, Hitler in speech to Reichstag-last sentence-his thanks to God for a German victory in Poland.

20 April 1940, Hitler's birthday, Deputy Fuhrer Rudolf Hess in a speech to German youth - one of the seven commandments for the youth: "Always act as you think the Fuhrer would act and you will never be wrong. Have the courage to tell the truth and despise lying. Belive in God, who is with the courageous".

14 May 1940, Angriff newspaper article quoting Dr. Ley (Reichsorganisationsleiter and DAF Reichsleiter): "Hitler brought Germany to reason and made us happy. We're convinced we will now bring Europe to reason and make it happy. That's his God-given mission."

Hitler may not have been a 'practicing' Christian, and perhaps many of his cohorts were not either, but there are numerous usages of God in speeches of all the high ranking Nazi's and General Staff. If Hilter was not a Christian, he allowed it at any rate and he did indeed believe in God. There were several discussions between the Nazi heirarchy and Vatican staff throughout the years Hitler was in power. Do not forget that the occult was also allowed and several high ranking Nazi's practiced some form of it.

whichphilosophy

None of the Nazis were Jehovah's witnesses or Penetcostal I guess.

Magus55

And where, by these quotes, do you automatically assume Hitler was Christian? All Hitler and Nazi's say is "God". There are thousands of beliefs in the world. I don't see anything of the above lending to the belief that they accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. And if they did, they must have never read the Bible ( well of course if they were Catholic it wasn't allowed, so thats not surprising).

Bright Life

Hmm, they mention god, but not Jesus. Do you think they were Jewish?



BL

Magus55

I think Hitler actually was partially Jewish.

whichphilosophy

I think Hitler did believe his Christianity was correct; however as with any despot they would ensure support from the main Christian opinion groups.

I think if the same lunatics who took over the assylum were around, pretty much similar pattern of destruction and genocide would have taken place but with differnt ..isms. This is because we are referring to highly irrational individuals.

Yes Anti Semitism was pretty much part of the agenda of the Churches at that time and always at least simmered below the surface.


They will need the fanatics of course as the driving forces. Also the said fanatics can just say anything and this will “fly�? with the masses. Yes profoundly Mass stupidity and sincere ignorance are the key ingredients. Most religions will believe they can offer the road to truth.

I would tend to believe more so in Europe. We’ve already had examples. The US constriction does nowadays allow greater freedoms of religion and speech, though not perfect. A few years ago I would have pretty much agreed. And it has happened in Europe (former Yugoslavian republics). However I think the US has strengthened its commitment to the constitution on the freedom of beliefs and religion.

There is the political factor for the “you’re with us or against us�? herd command, but for all its faults, the US does have a lot of good points. We couldn’t have this discussion in China in this way about its leaders, even though it has opened up more than before regarding accountability.

But I guess as these are likelihoods of occurances, we could not entirely rule out the USA

Gawen

Well, from these quotes, you can't really and I stand corrected if by what I wrote assumes that much. He was born into a Christian disfunctional family and he did have Jewish relatives. It does seem that Hitler was more a deist than anything else. However, he has been recorded as putting a wreath at the Unlnown Soldiers grave when the Polish campaign concluded. The grave had a great Christian cross on it.

Hitler had an agenda. He used every means at his disposal to acheive the ends to that agenda. He enlisted the help of the Vatican or any other Christian that would cater to his means. On the other hand, he would do away with anyone that would thwart him...Christian, Catholic, Socialist, Communist, etc. or not.

Regardless, even if Hitler was a Christian, he wasn't a good one and by that I think we can all agree.

Bright Life

So it has been said. Given his actions, do you think he was a practicing Jew, and therefore refering to YHWH?

BL

Shameless Hussy

He was baptized and later confirmed in the Catholic church. There is nothing (so far as I know) to suggest he converted to another religion. When Catholics, such as Hitler, talk about God, and the Lord, and the Creator, it is generally safe to assume they are talking about the Christian God/Lord/Creator, unless they state otherwise. Whether other Christians disapprove is beside the point.

As for Hitler being part Jewish, I know of no evidence for this, just rumours. Do you?

WCH

I heard that his grandmother was Jewish, but that could just be a rumour.