Originally Posted by worldly

Could it be my poor memory. Did not Jesus actually meet
a guy that was blind and his relatives had taken him to these
therapeutae there locally and them failed and Jesus took clay?
and spit on it and covered his eyes and he suddenly could see?

Have I made it up? I am too lazy to look for it and as atheist
I think it is myth but it could be the text wanting to say Jesus
was greater than these famous people therapeutae?

Originally Posted by worldly

we need someone good at searching through the bible.
could it be another verse they tell him that the supposed
to be good at it healers had failed so they challenged
if jesus was as good as claimed?

Guys my memory is not to be trusted that way
but my gut feeling is that the text does refer to these
Therapeutae somethign but maybe don't mention that term
could it be the comments in some Bible from the Translators
giving their understanding and the text itself only mention
Healers or something. Did they mention a Bath and that
it was used for to heal persons? Sorry I have to give up
I get headache thinking about it.

Originally Posted by mountainman

According to the WIKI article the Therapeutae were a Jewish sect which flourished in Alexandria and other parts of the Diaspora of Hellenistic Judaism in the final years of the Second Temple period. The primary source concerning the Therapeutae is the account De vita contemplativa ("The Contemplative Life") by the Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria (c. 20 BCE - 50 CE) who appears to have been personally acquainted with them.


The Therapeutae of Asclepius

The Therapeutae of Asclepius do not appear to be mentioned and I think should be. There are ample testimonies to the existence of such a group in the early centuries, and they were associated with the temple network of Asclepius, the healing god of the Roman Empire before the 4th century. The physician Galen, personal attendant to the Emperor Marcus Aurelius considered himself to be one of the "Therapeutae of Asclepius".


See also therapeutic

Originally Posted by worldly

we need someone good at searching through the bible.
could it be another verse they tell him that the supposed
to be good at it healers had failed so they challenged
if jesus was as good as claimed?

Guys my memory is not to be trusted that way
but my gut feeling is that the text does refer to these
Therapeutae somethign but maybe don't mention that term
could it be the comments in some Bible from the Translators
giving their understanding and the text itself only mention
Healers or something. Did they mention a Bath and that
it was used for to heal persons? Sorry I have to give up
I get headache thinking about it.

Originally Posted by WIKI

The Pool of Bethesda is a pool of water in the Muslim Quarter of Jerusalem, on the path of the Beth Zeta Valley. The Gospel of John describes such a pool in Jerusalem, near the Sheep Gate, which is surrounded by five covered colonnades. It is associated with healing.


History

The history of the pool began in the 8th century BC, when a dam was built across the short Beth Zeta valley, turning it into a reservoir for rain water;[24][25][26] a sluice-gate in the dam allowed the height to be controlled, and a rock-cut channel brought a steady stream of water from the reservoir into the city[24] The reservoir became known as the Upper Pool (בריכה העליונה). Around 200 BC, during the period in which Simon II was the Jewish High Priest, the channel was enclosed, and a second pool was added on the south side of the dam;[24][25][26] although popular legend argues that this pool was used for washing sheep, this is very unlikely due to the pool's use as a water supply, and its extreme depth (13m).

In the 1st century BC, natural caves to the east of the two pools were turned into small baths, as part of an asclepieion;[24][27] however, the Mishnah implies that at least one of these new pools was sacred to Fortuna,[28] the goddess of fortune, rather than Asclepius, the god of healing.[29] Scholars think it likely that this development was founded by the Roman garrison of the nearby Antonia Fortress,[24] who would also have been able to protect it from attack[27] the location of the asclepieion, outside the then city walls, would have made its presence tolerable to the Jews, who might otherwise have objected to a non-Jewish religious presence in their holy city.[27]

In the mid 1st century AD, Herod Agrippa expanded the city walls, bringing the asclepieion into the city. When Hadrian rebuilt Jerusalem as Aelia Capitolina, he placed a roadway along the dam, and expanded the asclepieion into a large temple to Asclepius and Serapis.[24] In the Byzantine era, the asclepieion was converted to a church.

Originally Posted by aa5874

But, isn't everything we know about the History of the Roman people from the Church or passed through the Forgery Mill??

Originally Posted by Book Description

Throughout nearly all of antiquity, the legendary Greek physician,
Asclepius, son of Apollo and Coronis, was not only the primary
representative of divine healing, but also so influential in the
religious life of later centuries that, as Emma J. Edelstein and
Ludwig Edelstein point out, "in the final stages of paganism,
of all genuinely Greek gods, [he] was judged the foremost
antagonist of Christ."

Providing an overview of all facets of the Asclepius phenomenon,
this book, first published in two volumes in 1945, comprises
a unique collection of the literary references and inscriptions
in ancient texts -- given in both the original and translation
-- to the deity, his life, his deeds, his cult, and his temples,
as well as an extended analysis of them.

Originally Posted by stephan huller

θεραπευτής* comes from a root that means "to attend" usually the gods