cajela

But I'm not trying to moralise natural behaviour. I think that nature is fundamentally non-moral, and morality is a human concept.

The point I'm trying to make is this:
IF nature was set up by a moral agent (god, hypothetically)
AND nature contains much suffering (easily witnessed)
THEN that moral agent is responsible for the suffering.

And then, since this is the old problem of evil, I point out that you can't blame it all on free will for humans, because a lot of it is nothing to do with humans. Suffering isn't going to teach an antelope a moral lesson, or lead it to jebus...

johntheapostate,
I have another problem for your list.
So how come Abel was god's good boy for being a shepherd, and making an animal sacrifice, killing lambs? He certainly predated Noah.

johntheapostate

Heres another one. Why is it said that clean and unclean animals went up into the ark. Noah was only instructed to eat meat after the flood dried up.