Chili

Not to derail or sound incomprehensible again, but may I suggest that 50 was seen as the years in age when it is time to have seen Abraham in the journey of life?

This would be based on tradition that Luke presents in his own lineage that was inspired to him instead of recorded as Matthew presents. Significant here is that religion for Luke has come to an end as a 'means to the end,' and that necessarily must take him past Abraham, past Adam and right back to God.

So then 'to have seen Abraham' is to be old enough to know and know it first hand, which in some classic literature is 38 plus whatever it takes to get to the end.

Sheshbazzar

Genesis 6:15 are 'fifty cubits' actually 47? or 53? cubits?

Exodus 26:5 are 'fifty loops' actually 47? or 53? loops?

Leviticus 27:3 are 'fifty shekels' actually 47? or 53 shekels?

Leviticus 23:16 are 'FIFTY days' actually 47? or 53 days?

As your thinking cap appears to be unbalanced, I'll take pity and give you a bit of direction.

As it is written, and is a recognized and ethical rule employed by all honest people of all civilized nations;

35."You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume." (Lev 19:35)

13. You must use accurate scales when you weigh out merchandise, (NLT)

14. You shall not have in your house differing measures, a large and a small.

15. You shall have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure," (Deut 25:13-15)


84 seconds is 1.4 minutes

84 minutes is 1.4 hours

84 hours is 3.5 days

84 times 3.5 days is 294 days, or 42 weeks, (or 7056 hours or 423360 minutes or 25401600 seconds, not one more nor one less.)

84 days is 12 weeks or 2016 hours or 120960 minutes or 7257600 seconds

I have five digits on my right hand, and five digits on my left hand, ten digits total.

I use them to calculate.

To simple count 10 days of 24 hours (240 hours or 14400 minutes or 864000 seconds.)

Or with respect to seven, assigning each digit a value of .7, the digits of my right hand have the sum of 3.5 answering to 3.5 days or 84 hours (5040 minutes or 302400 seconds)

The collective sum of the ten digits of both hands then 7 whole days or 168 hours (or 10080 minutes or 604800 seconds) 84 hours on this half and 84 hours on that half.

Successively multiplying my ten digits one through ten gives me the number 3,628,800 which is the number of minutes in 2520 days or 360 weeks.
Seven circuits of 360 days or 360 circuits of 7 days. The half thereof being 1260 days or 180 weeks (or 30240 hours or 18144400 minutes)

Thus when I read The Book I see to put a difference between what constitutes the boundaries of 'The 14th Day', and what constitutes The 15th Day', and between what constitutes 'The SEVENTH Sabbath' and ''49 days," and what constitutes "THE FIFTIETH Day."


ששבצר
'Shesh batzer' the Hebrew.

Whose name signifies a perfect 'measuring reed' of six perfect cubits;
To lay Judgment to the line, and righteousness to the plummet:
The way of the crooked to reveal, and the way of the perverse to uncover.


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Jaybees

Over and over again we read from reputable scholars that there are forged interpolations in Tacitus, Suetonius, Josephus and other non-Xtians which refer in one or another way to Xtians and/or their particular deity.

In looking at the extant copies, I have to admit they do appear to be forgeries, but I have difficulty in believing that no original, untampered copies survived. I'm always suspicious of conspiracy theories, however, and this one would be a rather difficult to perpetuate. There must have been many copies of these works around. How could those "good" copies have so consistently disappeared without a trace?

aa5874

It is extremely easy to detect fraud and forgery in non-Apologetic writings with supposed accounts about Jesus or Christ.

If people in the Roman Empire did have actual Public records that Jesus was just a Jewish man then the Jesus cult would have been known to LIARS from the very start.

It is just not credible at all that people of antiquity knew that Jesus was Not born of a Ghost and a Virgin since at least 6 CE to 33 CE.

Paul supposedly claimed Jesus resurrected on the third day after he was buried and spread this rumor "all over" the Roman Empire.

If there were PUBLIC records of Jesus and people of Judea and Jerusalem actually knew him as a man then the Pauline writings would have been known as a Pack of LIES when he claimed over 500 people was seen of resurrected Jesus.

There were no public records of Jesus as a man and that is precisely why we have the Gospels, Acts of the Apostles and the Pauline letters with their bogus claims about Jesus, born of a Ghost, the Son of God, and God the Creator.

Chili

Normally they wait a hundred years before they make a saint so that skeletons have chance to die, but with this tale 'taller than tall' they must have thought that 100 years wasn't enough. Is there something wrong with that?

JoeWallack

JW:
Perhaps the most valuable extraction from the digs at Nazareth (so to speak) from Rene Psalm (by The Way, could someone other than Tanya please explain how the hell you could possibly prove that 1st century Nazareth existed when no one has any idea where exactly it was):

THE ACTS OF MARK

JW:
I've put in bold the evidence here that the author thought Jesus was an older didachdude. I've put in red the evidence that the author is relieing mainly on "John".

Bonus material for Solo: Note as always how "John" is a reaction to "Mark". The original narrative has Galilee as the situs restorante locale. This works well for Greek Tragedy. Jesus than goes to Jerusalem and gets "The Wallack Treatment" because his star Teaching & Healing Ministry was in Galilee. Does not work for subsequent orthodox who want historical witness. So in a wonderful irony in itself, "John" relocates the setting of The Teaching & Healing Ministry to Jerusalem/Judea, thereby changing The Word of God ("Mark"), which is exactly what he claims to be presenting (so to speak (so to speak)). (See above where the author invokes "Jerusalem" as the setting for the Teaching & Healing Ministry).


Joseph

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Chili

Nazareth was that 'little big city of god' in the mind of Joseph where Mary was his 'imago,' who untill now was the 'unknown woman' that he left behind to rule his TOL, while he took Eva to be his wife outside of Eden in the TOK where she served him well as 'temple tramp' in his own mind and taught him to crawl again when the going gets tough in life where only the fittest are known to survive.

I dare say that John's Jesus works in Jerusalem because "there is no guile in him" and no mountaintop tales will ever be told by him such as in Galilee where eristic showmanship fuels the procuring art of sophistry.

That Mark's Mary converted is only because her son only had his light knocked out to leave her stranded in the dark (i.e. my lord my lord why did you leave me stranded in the dark), and so Mark's Mary was Magdalene now in hot pursuit of bible passages to quench her undying thirst for more, simply because with Jesus crucified the light of common day has lost its shine and even the stars no longer illuminate her night. Iow, her dream is gone for good and eternal hope must take it's place with 'patient endurance' being the dirge that she will sing.

So, John never improved Mark but shows exactly how and why Mark is the antithesis of John and so the antichrist for all.