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Toby Beau · 09-13-2007, 04:44 PM

I sorta giggled a bit when I heard the "plank in your own eye" shtick. But after the 50th time, it got kinda old.

Gamera · 09-13-2007, 05:10 PM

This is from an apocryphal work called the Gospel of Catskillia, a later Latin work:

Then Jesus called his apostles to him and asked, "What do I teach of the resurrection of the body?"

And Peter stood up and answered, "That the body shall be raised from the dead, and called to judgment on the Great Day of the Lord."

Then Jesus replied, "But what do the Sadduces teach about the resurrection of the body?"

At this the apostles were troubled because the Sadduces do not teach the resurrection of the body. They whispered among themselves that perhaps Jesus was angry at them for not understanding what he had taught them about the Sadduces. So Jesus, seeing their confusion, said, "You have eyes but cannot see, ears but cannot hear. The Sadduces do not believe in the resurrection of the body, and that is why they are sad, you see?"

Jayco · 09-13-2007, 05:18 PM

Too bad Coulter doesn't use jokes or sarcasm, she uses outright slanderous attacks fueled by unverified claims and hatred. =o

The more appropiate question would've been, "Why are you such a lunatic?"

"Well, Jesus used lunacy to get his point across, too, you know."

Minimalist · 09-13-2007, 06:29 PM

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Jesus and the apostles arrive in a small, dusty town to discover an angry mob obviously bent on doing harm. Jesus elbows his way through the crowd to discover a terrified woman cowering on the ground. Only then does he notice that everyone around her is holding stones.
"What's happening here?" he demands.
"She's an adulturess," cries a voice. "And she must be stoned to death."
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," replies Jesus, staring back at the crowd. At this, everyone falls silent, then one by one they drop their stones and shuffle off, ashamed.

Except for one little old woman who staggers up to the adulturess with a monster of a rock in her arms. With a huge effort of will she raises it above her head and craaaaaash!, smashes it down on the other woman, killing her instantly.

Jesus lets out a huge sigh then says, "You know, Mum, sometimes you really piss me off."

..

Johnny Skeptic · 09-13-2007, 06:33 PM

At the link that Toto mentioned, Anne Coulter said " "So we get to see Democrats pretending to believe in God ahead of schedule. It's always fun watching them faking belief in God." She was obviously incorrect. A web definition for the word "God" is "the supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe; the object of worship in monotheistic religions." Since the vast majority of Democrats are theists, the vast majority of Democrats believe in God.

If Coulter had said "So we get to see Democrats pretending to believe in God ahead of schedule. It's always fun watching them faking belief in the fundamentalist Christian version of God," she would still have been wrong. Liberal Christian Democrats most certain to not pretend to be fundamentalist Christians.

At any rate, being a lawyer, and a former law clerk to a U.S. Supreme Court justice, one would think that Coulter would know what the separation of church and state means.

Toto · 09-13-2007, 06:50 PM

Knowing what separation of church and state means doesn't mean that you believe in that principle.

It's hard to know what Coulter really thinks, as opposed to her public shtick, which has been very lucrative for her.

jeffevnz · 09-13-2007, 10:10 PM

I have feeling she knows it's all shit. Pure speculation though.

Monad · 09-14-2007, 02:06 AM

He liked to tell people to "go forth and multiply" a lot when they pissed him off.

DCHindley · 09-15-2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cege

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I can't recall any jokes or sarcasm from Jesus.

Surely you jest.

What could be more of a knee-slapper than camels through needles' eyes, white-washed sepulchres, or helpful Samaritans?

Seriously, those are examples of what some think are Jesus' humorous illustrations that would have had his audiences laughing back in the 1st century.

Also Gospel of Thomas:

72a) [A man said] to Him, "Tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me."
72b) He said to him, "O man, who has made Me a divider?" He turned to His disciples and said to them, "I am not a divider, am I?"

The joke here is that the readers of GoT well knew that Jesus was considered to have caused divisions within Judaism. The author of GoT used that to make Jesus give a humerous aside to the reading audience.

Considering how the GoT tends to laboriously twist around sayings of Jesus in circulation in Egypt, the creator of this litle aside probably intended to break the tension and tediousness. The audience probably let out a good chuckle at this point in the recitation.

Maybe it ain't the real Jesus being funny, just the author of GoT. Then again, how do we know he authors of the Gospels weren't putting humor in Jesus' mouth as well? "I ain't no political revolutionary! I'm just a witty purveyor of wisdom who pissed off those foolish Jews."

DCH

Timetospend · 09-15-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RareBird

Jesus was renowned for his knock-knock jokes. (Like I'd know.)

The following has always seemed to me like it has a sense of humor (and even some apparent knocking).
Luke 11:5-7,9
And he said to them, "Suppose one of you has a friend, and you go to him at midnight and say to him, 'Friend, lend me three loaves of bread; 6 for a friend of mine has arrived, and I have nothing to set before him.' 7 And he answers from within, 'Do not bother me; the door has already been locked, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot get up and give you anything.' 9 "So I say to you, Ask, and it will be given you; search, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened for you.
NRSV

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09-13-2007, 04:44 PM	#11
Toby Beau Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 43	I sorta giggled a bit when I heard the "plank in your own eye" shtick. But after the 50th time, it got kinda old.

09-13-2007, 05:10 PM	#12
Gamera Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Springs, California Posts: 10,955	This is from an apocryphal work called the Gospel of Catskillia, a later Latin work: Then Jesus called his apostles to him and asked, "What do I teach of the resurrection of the body?" And Peter stood up and answered, "That the body shall be raised from the dead, and called to judgment on the Great Day of the Lord." Then Jesus replied, "But what do the Sadduces teach about the resurrection of the body?" At this the apostles were troubled because the Sadduces do not teach the resurrection of the body. They whispered among themselves that perhaps Jesus was angry at them for not understanding what he had taught them about the Sadduces. So Jesus, seeing their confusion, said, "You have eyes but cannot see, ears but cannot hear. The Sadduces do not believe in the resurrection of the body, and that is why they are sad, you see?"

09-13-2007, 05:18 PM	#13
Jayco Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, Illinois Posts: 865	Too bad Coulter doesn't use jokes or sarcasm, she uses outright slanderous attacks fueled by unverified claims and hatred. =o The more appropiate question would've been, "Why are you such a lunatic?" "Well, Jesus used lunacy to get his point across, too, you know."

09-13-2007, 06:33 PM	#15
Johnny Skeptic Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 19,796	At the link that Toto mentioned, Anne Coulter said " "So we get to see Democrats pretending to believe in God ahead of schedule. It's always fun watching them faking belief in God." She was obviously incorrect. A web definition for the word "God" is "the supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe; the object of worship in monotheistic religions." Since the vast majority of Democrats are theists, the vast majority of Democrats believe in God. If Coulter had said "So we get to see Democrats pretending to believe in God ahead of schedule. It's always fun watching them faking belief in the fundamentalist Christian version of God," she would still have been wrong. Liberal Christian Democrats most certain to not pretend to be fundamentalist Christians. At any rate, being a lawyer, and a former law clerk to a U.S. Supreme Court justice, one would think that Coulter would know what the separation of church and state means.

09-13-2007, 06:50 PM	#16
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Knowing what separation of church and state means doesn't mean that you believe in that principle. It's hard to know what Coulter really thinks, as opposed to her public shtick, which has been very lucrative for her.

09-13-2007, 10:10 PM	#17
jeffevnz Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA, USA Posts: 3,370	I have feeling she knows it's all shit. Pure speculation though.

09-14-2007, 02:06 AM	#18
Monad Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,127	He liked to tell people to "go forth and multiply" a lot when they pissed him off.

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